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LOOKING 4-Golden Puppy

Mysts38
September 21st, 2004, 10:01 AM
Hi All

Our 4 year old golden recently passed away and we are looking for another golden pup to fill our hearts and homes

We would love to have a male or female...from age 8 weeks to 6 months..Please dont say "rescue" becuase they wont allow us to adopt a dog due to the fact that we have a child under the age of 8.we fought that battle and tired of losing

We are in the Ottawa area but are willing to travel 3 hours for a gorgeous golden..pup must be a registered purebred

Thanks!

Bugsy
September 21st, 2004, 10:14 AM
Hi

I'm sorry to hear about your golden...to pass at such a young age ...why did he/she pass on so early?

Mysts38
September 21st, 2004, 11:25 AM
Thank you...Cujo was hit by a car one night,crossing the road to see his friends..he was out with my husband...we are devastated at his loss..he was a wonderful golden teddy bear..he died on the way to the hospital with his mommy and daddy near

Bugsy
September 21st, 2004, 12:03 PM
What a sweet face....your son/daughter must be devastated :(

LL1
September 21st, 2004, 12:08 PM
I'm so sorry about your dog, it can happen so easily when off leash or in unfenced yards. My sympathies.

LL1
September 21st, 2004, 01:36 PM
And wanting a registered purebred pup between 8 weeks and 6 months in rescue would be more of a struggle than the fact that you have a child under 8. If you are insistent on a dog from a breeder Golden rescue would be able to tell you who to avoid.

goldenblaze
September 22nd, 2004, 05:20 PM
I know of a litter of sweet golden pups right now both parents are on site and CKC papers come along aswell as AKC. 3 yr health too, we are one hour south of you, check your pm.
A close friend has picked her's out of this litter not sure how many are left as there were 11. Can you picture that, how sweet. Let me know if you are interested in learning more, email me if you like.
lorie@b2b2c.ca

pug lover
September 22nd, 2004, 05:54 PM
try contacting the ottawa humane society, they received a lot of dogs from the smith falls resue, I would say that you are a good candidate. :)

Lucky Rescue
September 22nd, 2004, 06:22 PM
I know of a litter of sweet golden pups right now both parents are on site

If both parents are on site, I have grave doubts about what kind of "breeder" this is.:(

goldenblaze
September 22nd, 2004, 08:10 PM
If both parents are on site, I have grave doubts about what kind of "breeder" this is.:(


Why would you say that? This litter of pups are healthy and happy. Parents are free of hips, eyes, cancer. The dogs are wonderful I trust my friend as she did do alot of research before buying a pup. Please remember not all people are bad and there are some good breeders, just because they have both parents now you should have doubts, I don't agree! This litter has a 3 yr health contract they are CKC and AKC and cost 800.00. Yes just cause of the price does not say it all but again not all are bad.

Lucky Rescue
September 22nd, 2004, 10:50 PM
Have both parents been shown to championships in either conformation or performance?

Spurby
September 23rd, 2004, 08:46 AM
If there are pups left in a litter, that would send red flags to me as well. Reputable breeders have waiting lists, and homes already waiting before breeding, to insure that all the pups actually get homes when the pups arrive.

Make sure the parents have had ALL the health testing done, much wiser to wait and buy from a reputable breeder who does this, and like LR asks, titles their dogs either by show, or working titles. Goldens have many health problems due to poor breeding, having a pup that ends up with HD will end up costing you thousands, not to mention the poor dog suffering with it.

Lucky Rescue
September 23rd, 2004, 11:19 AM
It doesn't matter if they are CKC, or AKC, or healthy and happy or anything else. CKC and AKC papers mean nothing, other than the parents are the same breed, and purebred.

If puppies are being bred from untitled parents, they are being bred to create pets and make money. Considering there are over 2,000 homeless Goldens on Petfinder alone, I think this is rather unethical.

And yes, a reputable breeder has a waiting list of people wanting their puppies.

Joelle
September 23rd, 2004, 11:48 AM
Hello,

I've noticed that good Golden's are hard to come by. When we purchased our Golden Retriever (about 14 years ago) We looked at SEVERAL breeders and selected the breeder by:
-judging the mother (good temperament, etc.)
-judging the conditions were the puppies were kept (it was somebody's home)

Both parents were not on site only the mother. She was CKC registered I believe. But there was no waiting list although this was a long time ago and our dog turned out to be the sweetest, most patient, lovable dog I've EVER seen! I can try and see if we still have the no. though she was in T.O.

I don't know why shelters will not allow you to adopt a golden b/c of a younger child. My dog was incredibly patient with children, they pulled on her fur and she'd just sit there quietly. All the families I see in my area with young children typically have goldens. I though they make ideal family dogs...Lucky, is there any reason a shelter would not allow this?

Good Luck with the Golden Search

Joelle

P.S. I found this site http://www.golden-rescue.net => You never know!! :)

goldenblaze
September 23rd, 2004, 02:39 PM
Yes LuckyRescue both parents are champions and I never said that all the puppies were still for sale, I have no idea how many are sold because I did not ask. I agree some breeders are BYB but not all and I am sure that this breeder is just fine as I said my friend is well educated on Goldens and did not just go buy from this person without doing her homework. Again we are very much aware of health problems with this bred as her Golden just passed away at the age of 14 yr and I have my Golden so we both now about this bred. The breeder she bought from has non-breeding contract and health 3 yrs on health pretty normal contract I would say. No history of problems and she does have a get together every so often with all the pup's and their family's. If ever someone can not keep the dog it does go back to the breeder, that is not a bad person andit is not for the money.

As for the Goldens in Smiths Falls, I called there about the dogs and they are not going to be sent to home with children as they have many problems and need special homes the dogs were never around people. Read the Ottawa paper see for yourself how bad it was.
Golden's from SmithsFalls (http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=03177d69-b3ee-4887-bb95-7e6d7636e806)

So again as for this breeders my friend bought from I have no worries and I never said go buy, I did mention that I know of a breeder. If you feel she is a problem breeder or byb maybe you should go see for yourself before passing judgement.

Lucky Rescue
September 23rd, 2004, 03:08 PM
Lucky, is there any reason a shelter would not allow this?

For the same reason we will not adopt cats or kittens to people with kids under 5.

Many parents won't take the time to supervise or teach the child how to treat an animal. If the cat scratches because it's being pinched or squeezed, or the dog accidentally knocks a child over, or objects to having it's tail pulled, the animal will be dumped.

All these animals have been abandoned at least once before, so the shelter/rescue has to do everything they can to make sure it won't happen again. It's for the protection of both animal and child.

Writing4Fun
September 23rd, 2004, 03:26 PM
It doesn't matter if they are CKC, or AKC
You're right, Lucky, being CKC doesn't mean the breeder is a good one. But, don't you want to make sure the breeder you ultimately choose is CKC registered? Otherwise you won't be able to prove your dog is pure, and that will limit the kind of events you can enter your dog into (if you plan on showing or competing with your dog, that is).

Mysts38
September 23rd, 2004, 10:06 PM
THe breeder we found comes highly recommended..and she even had a write up in the Dogs Annual mag..she has beautiful show dogs and after talking to her today on the phone,I feel very comfortable with her

She is CKC registered as well as GRCC registered...

Chewbacca
September 27th, 2004, 11:00 AM
I was just wondering how a Shih Tzu & Golden Retreiver would get along? I already have a Shih Tzu puppy, and was wondering if it would cause any trouble to add a golden retreiver to the mix? Do their temperaments get along? :D

goldenblaze
September 27th, 2004, 04:22 PM
I was just wondering how a Shih Tzu & Golden Retreiver would get along? I already have a Shih Tzu puppy, and was wondering if it would cause any trouble to add a golden retreiver to the mix? Do their temperaments get along? :D


Mine get along great, but you must realize not all dogs have the same temperments. My Shih Tzu Jordie is 4 yrs and has always had a brother to play with, we lost our Lab in April which was 8 weeks when he came home and we worked with him from the start with playing gentle as he grew he knew play nice. When our Lab passed away Jordie was heart broken and missed his brother so badly that he would not eat. When the Golden Retriever Blaze came home again 8 weeks and now 8 months Oct8th they are best buds :)

The two boys are together always, always with in sight of each other and sleep as tight as they can in bed. Blaze has a very sweet temperment loves all dog. But again he knows to play nice cause like the Lab he would grow large and Jordie stays at 14 pounds :) Last weekend we had two other dogs for weekend care, a Golden and a beagle all the boys played and had alots of fun. We often have my bosses Golden on weekends make sure if you have both little and big they must large from a young age nice

w_wolf
October 3rd, 2004, 02:40 AM
For the same reason we will not adopt cats or kittens to people with kids under 5.

Many parents won't take the time to supervise or teach the child how to treat an animal. If the cat scratches because it's being pinched or squeezed, or the dog accidentally knocks a child over, or objects to having it's tail pulled, the animal will be dumped.

All these animals have been abandoned at least once before, so the shelter/rescue has to do everything they can to make sure it won't happen again. It's for the protection of both animal and child.

We've looked into Golden Retriever rescue and were turned down because of my three year old. I can't resist but to comment on your quote though!

While I thank you for your frank answer, I have to wonder why everyone isn't looked at individually? If there are already pets in the home, why wouldn't adding another be acceptable? We have two tiny part Siamese cats who are 7, so they literally grew up with my 10 year old twins and now we have a three year old daughter. My cats haven't suffered any injuries from the children, and I believe a puppy or dog will be treated with the same respect that the cats receive. I am a firm believer that not every home is suitable for every dog nor is every dog suitable for every home, but to be shot down so quickly was a disappointment. I understand that animals who may be high risk need homes with no children, but golden retrievers have such a loving disposition that I find it hard to believe that none of them could be happy in a home with children. Unfortunately, people with youngsters seem to have to resort to the dreaded pet store, BYB or legitimate breeders. Such a shame when there are so many animals in need!

poohbear123
October 3rd, 2004, 03:58 PM
I am beginning to think the same thing....it would be less of a hassle to buy a puppy from a pet store than it is to try to rescue a dog. With three small children we have to be very careful of what type of dog we bring in to our home and we have been looking for weeks for the right one.

Writing4Fun
October 3rd, 2004, 04:30 PM
No, no! Don't ever consider buying from a pet store or a mill!! I know it takes a while to find your perfect pal, but it will be soooo worth it in the end! Look, my sister adopted a pup from the OSPCA in Parry Sound last year, and her daughter was 7 yrs old at the time. I adopted my pup in June this year from a shelter in Oshawa. At the time my oldest was almost 5 yrs and the baby had just turned 8 mths! So, there are places out there that look at the individual and their families. Just keep looking! Go to www.petfinder.org and check out the www.ospca.on.ca website as well (or your local SPCA or humane society, if you're not in Ontario). I'm sure your family friend is waiting for you out there somewhere! :D

Spurby
October 4th, 2004, 02:53 AM
I am beginning to think the same thing....it would be less of a hassle to buy a puppy from a pet store than it is to try to rescue a dog. With three small children we have to be very careful of what type of dog we bring in to our home and we have been looking for weeks for the right one.

To bad you consider it to be a "hassle" to adopt a dog from a rescue. It's called an adoption process, to ensure the animal placed is placed right, for ALL concerned. Just as you want to be very careful in finding the right dog, a rescue wants to be very careful in placement. You will not get this type of knowledge and consideration when buying from a pet store. Finding a pet to live with you and your small children for perhaps 10 years or more, should take time, and is well worth the wait once you find just the right match.

jackieb
October 4th, 2004, 06:49 AM
good luck mysts! I have to say that having three children myself, if you have children under 3 some rescues wont adopt out to you just by reading there sites and they say no breaking the rules too.

Iggette
October 5th, 2004, 09:52 AM
I feel the same......alot of dogs are missing out on good homes because of such strict rules regulations politics etc..... I looked for a solid month every single day, I wantned to meet and try to adopt on three seperate occasions but rules kept me away. I adopted buddy on a chance visit to the spca in Barrie even then I was almost refused....why? because my vet had no record of my pets having their rabies shots :eek: No mention of the thousands of dollars I spent there or acknowledgement and accolades for the multitude of present pets their disposition and all round good health because of regular visits. why do the rescues not take this into consideration
It was all very frustrating, time consumming, heartbreakingand dissappointing.....so yes sadly I can see the point of this poster when they say .....just easier to go to the pet store......the bigest question there? CAsh or Charge :( :mad:

Mysts38
October 7th, 2004, 09:27 AM
Hi

Even though we have found our pup(picking her up this Sat) Iam still disappointed in golden rescue organizations..Granted,they are doing whats best for their dogs,and that they have to take so much into consideration,when adopting out a dog..but there are SO many dogs that want to have forever homes..

I do realize,Golden or not tht these dogs have historys..some of them really bad ones,but there are other goldens in rescue, that have actually lived with kids of all ages,other dogs,cats,and just have been given up by the owners for whatever reason...so why cant these dogs be adopted out to families with kids under the age of 8?

Last year we even tried for a puppy..I believe he was about 3-4 months..and we were turned down..we werent given any other reason,other than "you have a kid under the age of 8"

In any case,I guess this point can be argued till the cows come home with no real resoloution...and Iam thankful that there are organizations,where these dogs have a second chance of living a healthy life.

jackieb
October 7th, 2004, 10:46 AM
I know it must be hard for the rescues but some of us have loving home even though we have children. I am in the same boat as i have 3 children my eldest being 4 and half. All the best with your new puppy and hope all goes well dont forget to post a picture sometime. :)

glasslass
October 7th, 2004, 01:34 PM
My happiest memories from my childhood are of our pets. I've always thought children and pets belonged together. Blondie, my ****er spaniel, was my confidant, my buddy, my heart. Children learn so much from pets. It'd be great if they had classes for children to learn how to interact with and care for the family pet - something the parents should be reinforcing. In our home, my parents didn't tolerate neglect or abuse of pets. We were guided the right way from day one

Mysts38
October 7th, 2004, 04:28 PM
I agree with you %100...our kids have been told that the puppy is NOT a toy..but an animal with feelings and needs...I do not tolerate rough play of any kind with a puppy or dog..Dogs dont understand as they get older..that the rough playthey got as a pup is not acceptable as an adult..and kids need to learn the same!

My kids are encouraged to play fetch games,hide and seek etc..but I do not allow any tug of war..chasing games,or even playing using their hands with a pup..My youngest is only 6,but she understands already what is expected of her around dogs and cats...

There is actually a dog trainin course near here that encourages the whole family,includin small kids to take part in training of the dog or pup..and I think this is great..because it teaches the dog respect for kids and vice versa.

jackieb
October 7th, 2004, 04:52 PM
my children have been brought up to respect animals and i wouldnt let them mishandle them in any way. POerhaps the rescue should speak to the families first before decieding no.

debanneball
October 8th, 2004, 11:03 AM
Hey Mysts, I just want to wish you all the best with your new puppy. Please post her pictures for all of us next week. Have you picked out her name yet...umm, let's see DEB would be great :D , but I'd understand if you didn't call her that.