December 6th, 2004, 05:05 PM
I am looking to adopt a terrier mix dog. From the age of 1 to 4 - he/she must be good with cats, "strangers" and children (niece age 10). It would also be nice if they were house trained/ crate trained. This companion must already come to me with up to date vaccinations and be neutered/spayed. If you have, or know of any, dogs that you feel would match what I am looking for please reply with description, email, area, and picture - or you could PM me.
If you have any questions for me please feel free to ask:)
December 6th, 2004, 06:28 PM
I have a question.:) What type terrier? Big (Airedale sized) or small (Yorkie sized) or something in between?
Jack Russell terriers are being dumped in droves because people rush out to get them after watching "Frasier" and have no clue of the amount of work they are.
Here is a JRT who just needs a committed owner who can give him the time, exercise and attention he needs.
He is actually okay with cats, something you don't find all that often with the smaller terriers.
December 6th, 2004, 07:33 PM
Staff terrier, pitbull terrier? There are tonnes of those around, and you can get them from puppy all the way through the age groups. :)
December 6th, 2004, 09:21 PM
There are tonnes of those around, and you can get them from puppy all the way through the age groups.
Yes, and it's not hard to find one who is wonderful with strangers, kids, and even cats.:) In fact, if it's not great with strangers or kids that would be very unusual and incorrect.
Mine is great with strangers to the point of being hysterical with joy.
December 6th, 2004, 11:06 PM
LOL Lucky! I take it your terrier makes a fabulous guard dog then... ;)
Actually there is the sweetest little terrier puppy available at Foxy's...
Check out "Raffles" under "Small Dogs"...
He looks like Benji! :love:
Not sure if you would like a puppy though. :)
I'll bet this baby will go soon, so act fast! :)
December 7th, 2004, 12:05 PM
Thanks guys:) The dog I am looking for is actually for my mum. Do not worry - she is 100% involved in this - she does not have a computer. We have been looking for about a month now. LR...I am pretty sure she knows about this because she wrote to me in one of my threads in General Forum.
I LOVE Pitts but they are not suitable for my mum's home. Plus she is a small dog fan:) I think it is because she is such a tiny woman.
She is looking for a dog between 6lbs - 12lbs. We were looking at Chihuahua's but my Step-father had a bad experience with one and said that he would prefer another breed. My mum love's Terrier mixes - like little teddy-bears or ragga-muffins :love: She had a JRT once....well, he was my sisters and she took him with her when she moved away from home. Bad experience there as well - just sooooo much energy. My mum is looking for a fairly calm dog. When I say this I do not mean just lies around and does nothing ;) I wish JRT's were okay because I have noticed as well how many there are in shelters - so sad...... My sister's JRT loved to chase my mum's cat when he was living with us :rolleyes: I love the dogs for adoption on Foxy's, but I had a bad experience with them and have been informed that they are not a good rescue....
I would have continued scanning online shelters/rescues to find a dog but it is becoming overwhelming and would love to find some help. Plus I find that Canadian shelters never really have time to post pics of small dogs, but there are tons in the USA. I would like to find a fur baby within Canada.
I am looking to pay an adoption donation of 150.00 CAD (but am willing to go a little bit higher).
Again, please feel free to ask me any questions.
Thanks for all of your help!!! :love:
December 7th, 2004, 01:30 PM
I just have to take a minute to say that I'm not sure what happened with you, but Foxy's is a fantastic rescue, run by two really dedicated people. I'm sure plenty of other people here will agree... they are really good. I applied for a dog with them and though the dog was placed elsewhere, I must say, I really think this is truly one of the best rescues out there! They are very thorough with applicants and will only place a dog in the BEST possible home. They are truly wonderful people!
December 7th, 2004, 02:22 PM
I did not apply for a dog there, but I was looking into adopting a pet. I asked them various questions and they responded. I then communicated with someone I am having help me in this search what I was told and they said not to deal with them and if I did to take precautions. He/she may have been wrong about them, but it was just the way that she responded that put up red flags. If others will say that they are a good rescue I will look into adopting from them. I did not want to really get into this - I just wanted to leave it at a bad experience... I do not like talking about other rescues/shelters in depth in case of unecessarily ruining a reputation.
I just wanted to post and ask for a little help from all the wonderful people here:)
December 7th, 2004, 02:36 PM
There's about 25 young small dogs on petfinder in Ontario right now:
from Shih Tzus to Beagles to Cockers to Min Pins to Lhasa
and about 56 adult small dogs from Bichon to Poms to Yorkies etc
Did you have a look there?
December 7th, 2004, 02:44 PM
Yeah, I did a few days ago. They must have got more on the site! Sounds like there is a lot more there than last time. The last time I looked was Saturday night and I saw some but they were mainly special needs.
I planned on taking another look again soon. Thanks for letting me know!:) I am going to go take another look ASAP:)
December 7th, 2004, 02:53 PM
What about this cutie? He is described as being neither "hyper" nor "yappy".:)
December 7th, 2004, 03:13 PM
Oh he is cutie, Lucky. Tyr I honestly have only heard good things about Foxy's I have heard they are very thorough and for some people they feel like they are being grilled. Personally I would rather someone grill me then not care where the dog is going. I would check the out and see how you feel, I think we all go by gut feelings and go with yours and if you have questions about them, ask them any reputable rescue will answer your questions. If they don't that would throw up a red flag to me.
December 7th, 2004, 09:25 PM
I actually almost adopted Daniel. Until..... they told me that he would come to me intact and to go and get him the same day I inquired about him. RED FLAG! They wanted my mum to go down that very same night and pick him up. When they told me that he was available and they would be very interested in adopting him to my mum (after a very lengthy email showing tons of interest with many questions) I then wrote back and asked what the next step would be(?). Did they want my mum to fill out an application form or come down and meet them personally and Daniel or they could go to her home......(?). I also asked if he would come to me altered (as they completely danced around answering that question and I noticed avoidance). When they replied to me they said "No he will not be neutered. Can your mum come and get him tonight?". Woah!
I then wrote and asked "No my mum can not go and get him tonight as she is not at home. Why will he be coming to me intact? Don't you want my mum to meet Daniel first? Don't you want to know who you are adopting to? Don't you want her to fill out your application form?". Reply...."We cannot afford it [to neuter] and if she can not get him tonight then we cannot adopt to you". My response " Well it is impossible for my mum to go down tonight as she is not at home. So I guess we will not be adopting Daniel". Their response "We will hold on to him if she can come tomorrow night?". Of course I told them that I am not interested in adopting if the dog is being adopted out intact. Is this not contributing to the problem of homeless pets? One intact dog can produce 67000 puppies in 6 yrs........... :mad:
I said before that I do not like talking about other rescues/shelters as I did not want to ruin a reputation....this is a completely different situation. They have ruined their own reputation. I had some under cover work done that night. A friend wrote and told them that he/she was interested in an unspayed female and wondered if they would adopt out an animal intact. They said "Yes we do have an unspayed female. The adoption fee is 200.00, can you come and get her tonight?"!!!!!
He/she asked a few questions herself.....
The gist of this "rescue"...... They ask for 200.00 adoption fee but they only spend 30-35.00 on each pet that comes into their care (excluding pet food). The dogs are fostered and the reason they cannot afford to s/n is because the adoption fee helps to pay towards the rent of their "facilities" where the dogs are housed. This is the type of place that brings in animals for their own profit and care not about where the animals end up....clearly.
I am sorry for the length - this was one of the many places like this that I have faced in my search. Sadly, there are many places like this. I was in love with Daniel (he sounded perfect). I was left with a pit of sadness in my stomach for this dog and the others. I cannot believe what they charge for an intact dog that they spend virtually nothing on for the care. Whoever adopts from them has to pay a 200.00 fee and then an extra 200.00 for s/n....if the dog is so lucky.....
This just makes me mad and is salt in an unhealed wound - again, sorry for the length.
He is very adorable...........
December 7th, 2004, 09:44 PM
Please, I would like to send what you have told us to Petfinder and get these people OFF.
I will need your email addy. You can PM it to me if you like.
Petfinder is the biggest source of homes for these rescues, and we need to get this kind of crap off of there.
December 8th, 2004, 09:39 AM
I one hundred percent agree with you. I was nervous after hitting that submit button and that someone would be mad at me for telling about another "rescue" - I am glad that you feel the same way:)
I will send my addy right now.
December 8th, 2004, 11:11 AM
Gosh that is terrible....I'm glad you're on this one!
December 8th, 2004, 11:45 AM
tyr... you have every right to blast this most recent rescue you have dealt with. They are clearly not doing this right and they need to be stopped! However, correct me if I'm wrong - my feeling is that you're basing your opinion of Foxy's on hearsay, so if you were worried about hurting a reputation, you probably shouldn't have said anything/mentioned anything at all without firm evidence, like you have for the shelter where Daniel was? Just my opinion. And damn, I sure hate to ruffle feathers, but I felt I had to say something here... :sorry: In any case, you do what feels right for you. That is what's most important for you and any animal in this experience! :thumbs up
December 8th, 2004, 11:55 AM
Question for Tyr: Really? Canadian Dog Adoption did all that?? I'm asking because that's where we got Phoebe and our experience was completely different. We did have to fill out a form, she was only 10weeks old so we had to agree to spay her before 6mths. There was one guy there wanting to adopt an intact male puppy as a companion for his intact female dog, but they wouldn't let him. The man who was telling us about Phoebe was almost in tears when we were chatting. We were there for at least an hour and a half asking questions and playing with all the puppies, and they were always very willing to help and never pressured us in any way. I just find it hard to believe it's the same group you described above. :confused:
December 8th, 2004, 12:48 PM
In all honesty I can't put 2+2 together from your posts. You are looking for a dog for your mom. You live in Ottawa and she lives in Harwood. You do not have a car. Yet you are contacting a Montreal rescue? You originally wanted a free kitten and have since had a change of heart concerning rescues?
You love Great Danes but live in an apartment. You have been researching small breeds since October... for your Mother's Christmas gift. Your mom lives in "the country" but can not have a large dog? or she prefers small dogs? She also still has your childhood cat Phoenix living with her....but after much research you have decided a Terrier breed would be a good match??
You would prefer the dog be good with cat(s). Does your mom also have more than just the one?
May I ask why Phoenix stayed behind when you moved?
I'm so confused I can't make heads or tails out of all this.
December 8th, 2004, 03:34 PM
Wow! I just felt like I got attacked! I am glad that LR knows where I am coming from. She has seen all of the posts I have made since my day of joiing, as well she has responded to most of them and she did not attack me at all. Thanks Lucky:) The being attacked reference goes out to Bugsy.
For Sarah Jane - I really should not have mentioned having a bad experience with Foxy's. I did not think about what I had said thoroughly. It was in my next post that I admitted that maybe I should not have said anything. I just thought I could say bad experience and leave it at that. Everyone has a bad one once in a while and I thought people would understand that. I just wanted to mention having a bad experience because I did not want anyone to think I was brushing off help for no reason. I was told by a friend that they were not reputable. But I did say that if others said they were good that I would be willing to check them out further. You did not have to say sorry. I completely understand.... I actually did look into them again after hearing that others had good experiences and that they were a good shelter. This time I spoke with a girl who was VERY helpful and very nice. Yay! Good experiences. They will not adopt out to anywhere further than 2 1/2 hours away from them though, so my mum could not adopt from them. Raffles is very adorable.
Writing 4 Fun - Yes, this did happen with that rescue. Maybe there is more then 1 person dealing with adoptions and that man you dealt with was a good one and has no idea what the other person is doing to this rescues reputation. Sounds like the person you adopted from was not the one I almost adopted from. I wish my experience, and my friends, had been as good as yours. How long ago did you adopt from them? Do you think that maybe the repsonsiblity has been picked up by a family member of his or friend - who could be abusing such a wonderful responsibility? How is your dog doing?:) I am really glad you had a better experience.
Bugsy - The reason you are confused is because you are combining all of my posts together since I joined. Most of which are completely unrelated and have nothing to do with me looking for a dog. The dog I am looking for right now I have only been looking into for a few weeks (making this not October but November). Read my post "Am I a horrible human being?" - this post was made a couple of days after my initial search. Yes I first came on looking for a free kitten OR one to adopt. I had no problems with adopting as I had already had 2 in my care that I had adopted (I now have 3 cats). I adopted my third one - just in case you grill me on that as well. I was just looking for a little help - and that was for MYSELF. I already had this conversation when I first joined that the reason I did not care if I adopted or got one for free was because I could afford either. Now, after being here and opening my eyes to all of the homeless animals I would never go for FREE ever again. I will now only dedicate myself to adopting an animal. As for Phoenix, she is 7 yrs old now. I first left home to go to school almost 3 years ago. At that time I did not think I was going to be able to bring her. I did not think I would be able to find an apartment that would allow cats. As most ads were "No Pets". Plus, yes she was a childhood cat. This does not mean she was ALL mine. She was the family cat loved by the family. She is just as much my mums. Plus she LOVESmy mum to death and my step-father. She is very happy where she is and would hate moving to a city to stare at concrete walls instead of watching the trees move and birds fly and water ripple. How do you know my mum lives in Harwood? Did I mention that in another post? Where I live and where she lives does not matter. I may not have a car but I have friends who do. And if you are paying so much attention to my other posts (which clearly you are not or you would not be asking all these questions - you would know what was going on) I am working with a rescue worker in helping me find a dog as well. I just thought that I could get some extra help on here from my companions here at Pets. This means, that I can look into other places because I can set up transport with a friend or have the rescue worker I am working with set up transport for me through other very helpful and reputable rescue workers. It is funny that you focused on Montreal rather than a further distance from me...ie. the USA. Again, shows you are not reading things fully. Are you going to read all of this that I am correcting you on? Or will you just skim through like you seem to have been doing? Yes I do love Great Danes! They are MY favourite dogs. MINE not my mums! I do live in an apartment - a great big one. One that does not allow dogs. Or I would have adopted one by now. Again, something I have gone over in posts before. Like I said then, I am thinking of adopting a Dane for MYSELF in a few years from now when I have a home of my own with no one to say I cannot have a dog. My fave dog has NOTHING to do with what my mum is looking for and what she likes. I have no idea how any of the things you can "not put together" is related to my mum at all - and my help in searching for the right dog for HER. Again, yes she lives in the country. She prefers small dogs. I am sure she could have a large dog if that was what she was looking for. Though, she would not fancy the idea of having to tie a dog up 24/7 because her house is not big enough for a large dog. Pets are companions not back yard decorations. As for Terrier breeds... some Terrier breeds are not a good match for cats, but some ARE. And yes, I have research day and night. Ask my co-workers what I do on my lunch hour. Or mym husband what I do after dinner for a few hours - every night. There are Terrier mixes that are great with cats - because of the mix. There are also pure Terriers that are great with cats. Then there are exceptions to every rule. Those dogs that are described as not being good with cats but have been well socialized, grew up with cats...etc... That is why a lot of places do temperment testing as well - you cannot always go by the book reference on an animal. Though, it is still good to do your research - so you know the breed and the questions to ask. And no, my mum does not have more than one cat - she only has Phoenix. But there are tons of loose cats in her area. The dogs around there are never off leash but a lot of people have out-door cats. Therefore, since she would be walking the dog every single day, it would be good for him/her to like and be okay with cats. Any more questions? I hope this has cleared up your confusion. I am not one of those horrible crazy's that comes on this board and screws around with the members here. I know what I am talking about (except for when I have a question). I am always full aware of what I have said and can back myself if I am attacked uneccessarily, like this time. If you would have taken the time to read through every single post you would not have been so confused.
December 8th, 2004, 04:04 PM
Tyr, I know what you mean about leaving a cat behind. My first cat, Puff, was left behind at my mum's house too. The biggest reason being that she and my dogs didn't get along and it was stressful for her. My mum loves that cat and Puff is my sister's biggest fan. I couldn't imagine tearing her away from that just because she was mine. She's happy and my parents are happy. For the record, I could have brought Puff with me as we bought a house, but Puff was declawed (long story, and no I didn't want it to happen), and she couldn't defend herself against the dogs. Not like they would have hurt her, but just for her own safety and comfort, leaving her there was the best thing I could have done. Good for you tyr, to put your cat's needs before yourself! :)
December 8th, 2004, 04:31 PM
Gee... I guess things can get a little confusing unless you hear them directly from the source. I guess I should have taken the time to get all my facts straight before I rattled on. Hmmm....(hint-hint) :rolleyes:
Good idea :thumbs up
December 8th, 2004, 04:34 PM
To whom it may concern.
I am appalled by the slanderous post sent by the Casey Family and surprised at how many jumped on board without first ascertaining the facts.
Thank you to Phoebe's family for speaking the truth.
If anyone would like a copy of our adoption contract, our application for adoption , our adoption handouts and our adoption follow up process we would be glad to send it to you.
We have an excellent reputation and it is well earned.
We screen potential adopters and in our adoption contract there is a spay /neuter clause , adult dogs must be fixed within 60 days of adoption and pups must be fixed by 6 months of age.
I am also extremely angry that we are accused of making money off the animals. I have no idea where she gets the $30 from and I don't care, it is wrong.
Again if any of you want to email me privately I will gladly send you our adoption contracts.
December 8th, 2004, 04:36 PM
Thank you very much Heelers!!!! You always understand me so well :) Many hugs and kisses to you and your fur babies:)
For the record, I will no longer be talking about Daniel or the Canadian Dog Adoption "rescue". I did not realize that someone here would contact them and they would threaten me with slander/libel. I thought I could come here and talk about bad experiences without this happening - as there have been many posts with people "bad mouthing" other shelters and for very selfish reasons, or no reason at all, or very good reasons and have not had this happen to them. This is probably a Pets first that another member would do this to somebody else. Thanks a lot whoever you are.
I did not realize talking about a bad experience can cause this much trouble.
BTW: I know it was not Lucky because she only contacted Petfinder and things like that are kept confidential as to who the person is making the complaint. Plus, I am not trying to close down a shelter, just have others aware. Having Petfinder involved is only because they do not condone have animals adopted out intact. Just for the record.
The person responsible for me being threatened talked to them directly by the sounds of it. Again, thanks.........
December 8th, 2004, 04:42 PM
The 30.00 was something my friend told me who said that he/she looked into you. I will not give his/her name as I will not have him/her threatened with a lawsuit either.
I do not want to be sued for talking openly about a bad experience. If you want to PM me we can talk about this further.
December 8th, 2004, 04:47 PM
Tyr's right! That was very mean and completely unjustified! How many times have I read posts on here with people saying they have had a bad experience with a particular rescue, and then people post wanting to know the name of the rescue so they can avoid the same problems?? Also, tyr said what happened to her and that is a valid statement. Brenda, if I were you, I would look into tyr's complaint and fix the situation, not assume she is lying or being malicious, or whatever!!! One of your volunteers obviously did something wrong in the handling of tyr's inquiry and you need to take steps to ensure this doesn't happen again and really ruin your rescue's reputation!! I also didn't find tyr's post slanderous in any way. She is free to talk about her experiences and it's only slander if she warned people to stay away due to false accusations. She even went so far as to tell writing4fun that she was glad that she had a better experience than herself!!! That is DEFINITELY not slander. :mad:
December 8th, 2004, 04:49 PM
Re: He is described as being neither "hyper" nor "yappy".
Wow, whoever wrote that sounds like quite the animal lover!! NOT!! How can Petfinder permit such organizations on their site? )Mind you, I've not read their mission statement but stil...)
December 8th, 2004, 04:57 PM
Thank you so much for sticking up for me right now :love: I obviously need it.... :sad: