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Old January 17th, 2010, 05:18 PM
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Ringsport

I was just curious about this. I have a friend with two Dobermans, and he's interested in having his dogs involved in this. I've never heard of it, so I did some internet searches.

I'm just wondering if anybody has experience with ringsport, and what the positives/negatives are. I just have a hard time grasping the idea that teaching a civilian dog to attack on command is something positive . My buddy got quiet defensive when I said that to.

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Old January 17th, 2010, 08:43 PM
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I find that Ringsport is more intense then ShH(Shutzhund)

I'm more into the SchH..My GSD is SchH III titled..My niece has her Black Russian Terrier SchH III titled..A co-worker is on the last phase of having his second Dobie titled..And I know others who are into SchH..

With SchH the dog must pass their BH(Obedience) before going into SchH. And they also go through Temperment Testing.

There are 3 phases. Tracking, Obedience and Protection.

Teaching the dog to "attack" on command is not a bad thing per say...The attack is not a "rip the person apart" attack..It's actually "bite" work...They are tought to "bite" and "hold" not tear apart.....This is why an aggressive dog would never pass this phase. They are not looking for aggression.

People think that dogs trained in this are dangerous, not true at all..They are still loyal loving dogs...And my GSD is a retired Police Dog and is nothing but a suck...LOL

I would get your friend to look into SchH..How old are his dogs?
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Old January 18th, 2010, 08:38 AM
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I think one is almost a year old, and the other is 2 years old. Another thing that I was curious about is, he travels for periods of time, and if these dogs are trained in this, than stop for a period of time, is it possible for them to confuse their training with real life if not kept on top of it?
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Old January 18th, 2010, 09:25 AM
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IMHO - dogs properly taught to do bite work are safer then your average family dog. A properly trained Schutzhund or Ringsport dog ONLY bites on command.
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Old January 18th, 2010, 10:03 AM
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IMHO - dogs properly taught to do bite work are safer then your average family dog. A properly trained Schutzhund or Ringsport dog ONLY bites on command.
i completely agree!
i work for the local police service and come in contact with ours (past and present) and other agencies k9 police service dogs. when walking about the station, they are the sweetest pups ever! however, in the field, they are quite intense, and will only bite on command. they are extremely intelligent and know the difference between the crazy lady at the station running toward them to hug them and give them cookies , and the person who just broke into someones house they are very dedicated, obedient dogs
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Old January 18th, 2010, 09:41 PM
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Sandi I couldn't agree with you more...



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Another thing that I was curious about is, he travels for periods of time, and if these dogs are trained in this, than stop for a period of time, is it possible for them to confuse their training with real life if not kept on top of it?
Not at all..You have to understand that with this sport, you and your dog work together..There are some parts of the Obedience that you don't verbally give commands..That's how close you work with your dog..He learns to understand what YOU want him to do without asking..And the commands are in German.

My dog has been retired for a few years now. And at the age of 13, he still has it..He hasn't lost any of his training..He is an amazing dog..


The year old is too young to go for the SchH titles

SchH I is 18 months

SchH II is 19 months

SchH III is 20 months
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