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mydogs May 9th, 2007 04:41 PM

wrong
 
ERYKAH your wrong, it is indeed 1964 I have the Registry in front of me:)

erykah1310 May 9th, 2007 04:45 PM

Hey im just going off of the info on the website.:shrug:
[url]http://www.nationalkennelclub.com/[/url]
[QUOTE]Since 1970 the National Kennel Club (NKC) has operated to help dog owners register any purebred dog. The NKC has been fair and impartial to all breeders, dog owners, and the various breeds they represent. With the NKC rare breeds may be shown with equal status as well as the major breeds. The NKC licenses all-breed dog shows, events for Coon Dogs, Beagles, Squirrel Dogs, Bird dogs, Fox dogs, Licensed Dog Kennels, Show Judges, and other dog related-events.

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LOL, I dont even think they are sure.... this is from another page on the site.

[QUOTE]Since 1969 the National Kennel Club (NKC) has operated to help dog owners register any purebred dog. The NKC has been fair and impartial to all breeders, dog owners, and the various breeds. With the NKC rare breeds may be shown with equal status as well as the major breeds. The NKC licenses all-breed dog shows, events for Coon dogs, Beagles, Squirrel dogs, Bird dogs, Fox dogs, licensed dog kennels, show judges, and other dog related events.

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mydogs May 9th, 2007 04:50 PM

I had Great Danes most of my life so you see it's easy to get hooked,at one time I wouldn't give a Toy breed a second glance now I have my collies too
and a Maltese

Puppyluv May 9th, 2007 05:10 PM

They're deffinately cute, but a couple of things about them draws red flags:

1) The Mi-Ki, as a breed, has been split between a few different clubs. These clubs are setting their own standards and the dog is quickly becoming very different from club to club, but all still have the same name, Mi-Ki.

2) The name Mi-Ki is trademarked...

3) The great uncertainty in origin.. If a breed is hundreds of years old and people aren't too sure of the origin of the breed, that's understandable. If the breed is 20 years old, it's more of a worry.


It seems like things are getting better though: The IMR has taken that strain and through a strict breeding program, including DNA profiling through the United Kennel Club, Inc., is developing and refining the Mi-Ki into a new "made in USA" pure breed.

Well anyways, they're cute.:shrug:

coronado3333 May 9th, 2007 05:47 PM

Mi-Kis are a purebred rare breed
 
This breed has been bred Mi-Ki to Mi-Ki for 20 years. There are 3 purebred registries at this time the largest is AMRA American Mi-Ki Registry Association. They require DNA profiling and all dogs track back to the original foundation stock. At this time AMRA is working towards ARBA, UKC and AKC recognition. The breed standards of the 3 registries have minor differences and we are attempting to work towards one combind standard that will best represent the breed.

The Mi-Ki has become much more type spacific in the last few years. I have raised and shown this breed for 5 years now and am actively involved in the recognition process. This is a wonderful breed and very smart. They make excellent theropy dogs due to the great personality of this breed.

The Mi-Ki has done very well in the international show ring winning over thousands of AKC and other rare breeds. They have earned and deserve the respect of the dog world.

By the way I know that a breeder has claimed to have trademarked the name. That is FALSE, she was denied trademark. I know this for a fact, you can check it out with the trademrk and patten office.

coronado3333 May 10th, 2007 10:38 AM

The Mi-Ki is NOT a designer breed
 
Why so quite, now that someone who has raised and shown them for years is on here.

You have not used the correct standard:shrug: , for the current standard go to [url]www.americanmi-kiregistryassociation.com[/url] click on standard. You will see it has come a long way.

The Mi-Ki has always been and still is a companion toy dog :dog: and is in the toy group in all but that one registry who no one shows with.

The Mi-Ki is NOT a designer breed. To get a Labradoodle you must breed a Poodle to a Lab. Mi-Kis have been bred Mi-Ki to Mi-Ki for over 20 years.

:offtopic: By the way the photos first used on this topic were [B][COLOR="Indigo"]stolen [/COLOR][/B]from :eek: my web site.
Next time ask......:pawprint:

Puppyluv May 10th, 2007 11:13 AM

[QUOTE=coronado3333;423232]

:offtopic: By the way the photos first used on this topic were [B][COLOR="Indigo"]stolen [/COLOR][/B]from :eek: my web site.
Next time ask......:pawprint:[/QUOTE]

I found them randomly on Google Images on several websites. There was no comment on the photos that permission was needed for duplication. I didn't "steal" them. I put them up as a demonstration of the breed, and left the domain the same so that people could see their origin. If I had saved the files, and changed the names so that it looked like they were my photos, then it would have been stealing. But I didn't. I mearly put up two photos that I found quickly and looked good. If you don't want your photos used like that, protect them.

marko May 10th, 2007 12:18 PM

Please let's keep this thread civil or it will be closed. We are all here to learn and to educate... hostility and/or rudeness detracts from both.

Puppyluv - Posting those pics violated the owner's copyright. It is not up to the owner to protect them...it's up to web users not to use them UNTIL they get permission. For now please leave them until we hear back from the OP.

coronado3333 - These images belong to you - should we delete them?

Thanks all!

Marko

cpietra16 May 10th, 2007 12:38 PM

THis site talks about he origin of the name and breed...I'm just curious as too when a breed goes from being a disigner dog to a breed.

[url]http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/miki.htm[/url]

Can a labradoodle become a pure breed in 20years too?

erykah1310 May 10th, 2007 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=cpietra16;423304]Can a labradoodle become a pure breed in 20years too?[/QUOTE]

According to their "breeders" yes they can.

erykah1310 May 10th, 2007 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=coronado3333;423232]Why so quite, now that someone who has raised and shown them for years is on here.

You have not used the correct standard:shrug: , for the current standard go to [url]www.americanmi-kiregistryassociation.com[/url] click on standard. You will see it has come a long way.

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Its not that "I" have not used the correct standard, its just what I have found.
However, the fact that the "Kennel Clubs" that recognize the breed cant even decide on the proper standard for the breed sets off another flag for me:shrug:


[QUOTE]The Mi-Ki is NOT a designer breed. To get a Labradoodle you must breed a Poodle to a Lab. Mi-Kis have been bred Mi-Ki to Mi-Ki for over 20 years[/QUOTE]
But im confused as to where the Mi-Ki origionates from?:shrug: And in 20 years when people are breeding Labradoodles to Labradoodles and in turn producing Labradoodles... will that make the Labradoodle a breed to?

[QUOTE]The Mi-Ki has always been and still is a companion toy dog and is in the toy group in all but that one registry who no one shows with.
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I would be quite ticked if the registries that held my dogs breed in it had different group placements. That seems unstable if you ask me:shrug: And if no one shows with them, why are there registered dogs with them:shrug:

Dont get me wrong, Im really just interested in knowing as much as I can, and what better way than to talk to someone as involved with them as you are.
And please dont mistake my absense due to work as backing down or anything, If I have a question, I will ask it, regardless who I am asking

mydogs May 10th, 2007 05:52 PM

I simply would like to say that most of you have been very critical of The Miki breed,for know good reason. All dogs evolved from wolves, that being said,you would not appreciate a new breed so why talk about it.You have know real interest in the breed other than to make fun of it.there are hybrid dogs ,hairless dogs, mop dogs [Komondors]and I could go on and on ,they became pure bred. I don't get it.I have been on the forum a few days and have been ashamed of most of your attitudes,seems to me that it's more important for you to insult rather then enjoy this forum. I have many breed dogs from a komondor ,Collies, Danes and yes a Miki and i love them all and would never appologize because you people wan't to make fun of rather then appreciate a new breed,Shame on you ,you have given this forum a bad rep.

Carnac May 11th, 2007 06:00 AM

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