Go Back   Pet forum for dogs cats and humans - Pets.ca > Discussion Groups - mainly cats and dogs > Off topic forum > Gardening

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old July 12th, 2011, 01:30 PM
hazelrunpack's Avatar
hazelrunpack hazelrunpack is offline
The Pack's Head Servant
Chopper Challenge Champion, Mini KickUps Champion, Bugz Champion, Snakeman Steve Champion, Shape Game Champion, Mumu Champion, Mouse Race Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Just east of the Hazelnut Patch, Wisconsin
Posts: 50,105
The whole front yard looks like a garden sometimes

We've recently stopped cutting much of the front yard. We're hoping it will eventually grow up in birch and oak and give us a little more privacy from the road. I'm hoping to get some native wildflowers established in the sunny areas, too.

Meanwhile, though, I have to say that Spring brings out the beauty of even the invasive plants. Only some of the grasses and possibly some of the yellow hawkweeds are native here--the rest of the flowers you see in the grass are exotics. Including the Shasta daisies, which turn out to be some of the more problematic weeds we have in the area...you'll see why in the last few shots.

Name:  Front lawn 6-17-11 H.jpg
Views: 123
Size:  146.4 KB

Name:  Front yard 6-17-11 A.jpg
Views: 121
Size:  135.2 KB

Name:  Front lawn 6-17-11 F.jpg
Views: 123
Size:  115.1 KB
__________________
"We are--each of us--dying; it's how we live in the meantime that makes the difference."

"It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived!"

"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old July 12th, 2011, 01:32 PM
hazelrunpack's Avatar
hazelrunpack hazelrunpack is offline
The Pack's Head Servant
Chopper Challenge Champion, Mini KickUps Champion, Bugz Champion, Snakeman Steve Champion, Shape Game Champion, Mumu Champion, Mouse Race Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Just east of the Hazelnut Patch, Wisconsin
Posts: 50,105
Name:  Front lawn 6-17-11 E.jpg
Views: 118
Size:  63.9 KB

Name:  Front lawn 6-17-11 D.jpg
Views: 123
Size:  57.1 KB

Name:  Front lawn 6-17-11 G.jpg
Views: 120
Size:  64.2 KB
__________________
"We are--each of us--dying; it's how we live in the meantime that makes the difference."

"It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived!"

"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old July 12th, 2011, 01:33 PM
hazelrunpack's Avatar
hazelrunpack hazelrunpack is offline
The Pack's Head Servant
Chopper Challenge Champion, Mini KickUps Champion, Bugz Champion, Snakeman Steve Champion, Shape Game Champion, Mumu Champion, Mouse Race Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Just east of the Hazelnut Patch, Wisconsin
Posts: 50,105
Name:  Front lawn 6-17-11 C.jpg
Views: 118
Size:  109.9 KB

Name:  Front lawn 6-17-11 B.jpg
Views: 119
Size:  129.6 KB

Name:  Front lawn 6-17-11 A.jpg
Views: 119
Size:  145.8 KB
__________________
"We are--each of us--dying; it's how we live in the meantime that makes the difference."

"It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived!"

"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old July 12th, 2011, 10:02 PM
Goldfields's Avatar
Goldfields Goldfields is offline
Senior Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,282
That looks wonderful, Hazel. What is the orange flower in amongst the daisies?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old July 12th, 2011, 10:14 PM
Dee-O-Gee's Avatar
Dee-O-Gee Dee-O-Gee is offline
You can call me DOG!
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Niagara, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,564
The orange flowers look like Zinnia's? Your birches look very healthy btw.

Love your shasta daisies...they look so peaceful IMO.
__________________
A dog wags his tail with his heart
Dogs have Masters--Cats have Staff

Rest in Peace Bailey: 12/10/95-1/9/09 (Golden Retriever)
Rest in Peace Kitty: 7/1/2000 - 10/7/2013
Gryphon (sounds like Griffin): 10/14/2004 (English Springer Spaniel)
Bella: 3/09/2005 LHD Cat adopted by/from Child
Mollie: 6/2/2009 (English Setter)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old July 12th, 2011, 11:12 PM
hazelrunpack's Avatar
hazelrunpack hazelrunpack is offline
The Pack's Head Servant
Chopper Challenge Champion, Mini KickUps Champion, Bugz Champion, Snakeman Steve Champion, Shape Game Champion, Mumu Champion, Mouse Race Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Just east of the Hazelnut Patch, Wisconsin
Posts: 50,105
The daisies are pretty, but a pain, klm...you just can't get rid of them once they're established unless you poison the whole lawn and start over! And probably the poison would kill the native stuff and the daisies would come up again! Shasta daisies line the gravel roads around here, too.

The orange flowers are another non-native--orange hawkweed. Their saving grace is that the butterflies love them.
__________________
"We are--each of us--dying; it's how we live in the meantime that makes the difference."

"It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived!"

"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old July 13th, 2011, 02:00 AM
growler~GateKeeper's Avatar
growler~GateKeeper growler~GateKeeper is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 17,280
So pretty
__________________
Avoid biting when a simple growl will do

The Spirit Lives As Long As Someone Who Lives Remembers You - Navaho Saying

Vindication ~ For all those pets who became sick or lost their lives from tainted pet food
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old July 13th, 2011, 08:41 AM
breeze's Avatar
breeze breeze is offline
Half Way To Crazy
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,716
love Daisies

it looks so pretty even if they are a pain sometimes
__________________
Have a heart that never hardens, and a temper that never tires, and a touch that never hurts."
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old July 13th, 2011, 08:59 AM
mikischo's Avatar
mikischo mikischo is offline
Mickey, my angel
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Posts: 1,185
It does look very purty and the daisies and hawkweed do look very nice. Too bad they are so invasive.

Would be great if you could introduce some native flowers as well. However, with the daisies growing so prolifically, you may have trouble.

True shasta daisy cultivars are supposed to be sterile. I am wondering if what you have are either oxeye daisies or an accidental hybrid rather than a true shasta daisy:

http://www.invasiveplants.ab.ca/Down...OxeyeDaisy.pdf

Shasta daisy is a cultivar (originated from) of Oxeye and was originally sterile, but can revert back to being fertile. Oxeye plants can be found sold through nurseries and as seed in wildflower mixes. The two plants can cross breed, resulting in an invasive hybrid that is difficult to distinguish from either parent.

Apparently daisies are shallow rooted and hand pulling can get rid of them over time (that is if you want to spend the next several springs and summers pulling daisies). I'm sure you have better things to do with your time.
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The animals share with us the privilege of having a soul." -Pythagoras
"The soul is the same in all living creatures, although the body of each is different." -Hippocrates
"Let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world." -Jack Layton
"Be the change you want to see in the world" -Gandhi

Kitties: Punky (14), Tweeky (8), and Sassy (10)

SweetMickey 1991 to May 24, 2009
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old July 13th, 2011, 09:12 AM
Melinda's Avatar
Melinda Melinda is offline
Senior Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,248
our yard was infested with daisies, I have giant shasta ones in my flower beds, but they are like 3 times the size of the ones that had tried to take over my yard *L* our fields around here are filled with them also.
your front yard looks great like that! how close are you to the road?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old July 13th, 2011, 12:17 PM
Goldfields's Avatar
Goldfields Goldfields is offline
Senior Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,282
That's very interesting info, mikischo. Explains why my one solitary Shasta daisy has been one solitary Shasta daisy for years. Obviously the true sterile type.
That photo of the drift of daisies in the sunlight under the silver birches is a beauty, Hazel. I think you are all just so lucky to have summers where everything is lush and green or flowering, because here it is just bone dry with that terrible risk of bushfires all the time.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old July 13th, 2011, 01:48 PM
hazelrunpack's Avatar
hazelrunpack hazelrunpack is offline
The Pack's Head Servant
Chopper Challenge Champion, Mini KickUps Champion, Bugz Champion, Snakeman Steve Champion, Shape Game Champion, Mumu Champion, Mouse Race Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Just east of the Hazelnut Patch, Wisconsin
Posts: 50,105
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikischo View Post
True shasta daisy cultivars are supposed to be sterile. I am wondering if what you have are either oxeye daisies or an accidental hybrid rather than a true shasta daisy:

http://www.invasiveplants.ab.ca/Down...OxeyeDaisy.pdf

Could very well be! Matches the description, but then one white daisy looks pretty much like another to me.

Apparently daisies are shallow rooted and hand pulling can get rid of them over time (that is if you want to spend the next several springs and summers pulling daisies). I'm sure you have better things to do with your time.
I spend a good part of my spring yanking them out of the gardens. We have about a third of an acre that is 'infested', and most of that we just keep mowed, but I'll pull them, too, if I have time. Just not enough hours in the day to make much of a dent in them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Melinda View Post
our yard was infested with daisies, I have giant shasta ones in my flower beds, but they are like 3 times the size of the ones that had tried to take over my yard *L* our fields around here are filled with them also.
your front yard looks great like that! how close are you to the road?
I think we've got 150 ft or so to the road. So roughly 50 meters.

These 'wild' daisies are smaller than the ones that I normally see in gardens...which would tie into the oxeye vs. shasta thing. I'm sure that as they cultivated the Shastas from the wild Oxeye, they would have selected for larger, showier flowers. If these are Oxeye, it would explain the size difference...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldfields View Post
That photo of the drift of daisies in the sunlight under the silver birches is a beauty, Hazel. I think you are all just so lucky to have summers where everything is lush and green or flowering, because here it is just bone dry with that terrible risk of bushfires all the time.
The last two years have been very wet and lush, GF, but a more normal spring / early summer around here is much drier. We live in the middle of hundreds of thousands of acres of forest and some years it's been like living in a tinder pile. The DNR often parks firefighting trucks a mile down the road at the lake so as to be closer to possible trouble areas during dry years. We're about 30 miles or so from the ranger station so that saves them a good 30-40 minutes response time if there's a fire.
__________________
"We are--each of us--dying; it's how we live in the meantime that makes the difference."

"It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived!"

"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old July 13th, 2011, 09:57 PM
Goldfields's Avatar
Goldfields Goldfields is offline
Senior Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,282
Quote:
Originally Posted by hazelrunpack View Post



The last two years have been very wet and lush, GF, but a more normal spring / early summer around here is much drier. We live in the middle of hundreds of thousands of acres of forest and some years it's been like living in a tinder pile. The DNR often parks firefighting trucks a mile down the road at the lake so as to be closer to possible trouble areas during dry years. We're about 30 miles or so from the ranger station so that saves them a good 30-40 minutes response time if there's a fire.
You must be enjoying this Summer as much as I did ours then? I couldn't recall a better one for us, no risk of fires at all. That was a result of a La Nina weather pattern though and I don't think we'll have that next Summer. Scary that they put that firetruck near you, but reassuring in a way. How populated is it where you are? What sized blocks?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old July 13th, 2011, 10:42 PM
hazelrunpack's Avatar
hazelrunpack hazelrunpack is offline
The Pack's Head Servant
Chopper Challenge Champion, Mini KickUps Champion, Bugz Champion, Snakeman Steve Champion, Shape Game Champion, Mumu Champion, Mouse Race Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Just east of the Hazelnut Patch, Wisconsin
Posts: 50,105
We're a double township--so 12 miles x 6 miles--with about 80 residents. Pretty sparse. Most of the residents live around the lake.
__________________
"We are--each of us--dying; it's how we live in the meantime that makes the difference."

"It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived!"

"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old July 14th, 2011, 08:19 AM
Melinda's Avatar
Melinda Melinda is offline
Senior Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,248
ohhh nice size front yard, I envy you
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old July 14th, 2011, 10:20 AM
hazelrunpack's Avatar
hazelrunpack hazelrunpack is offline
The Pack's Head Servant
Chopper Challenge Champion, Mini KickUps Champion, Bugz Champion, Snakeman Steve Champion, Shape Game Champion, Mumu Champion, Mouse Race Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Just east of the Hazelnut Patch, Wisconsin
Posts: 50,105
hubby thinks the drive is a little long for snowblowing in the winter, but otherwise it's very nice
__________________
"We are--each of us--dying; it's how we live in the meantime that makes the difference."

"It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived!"

"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Terms of Use

  • All Bulletin Board Posts are for personal/non-commercial use only.
  • Self-promotion and/or promotion in general is prohibited.
  • Debate is healthy but profane and deliberately rude posts will be deleted.
  • Posters not following the rules will be banned at the Admins' discretion.
  • Read the Full Forum Rules

Forum Details

  • Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
    vBulletin Optimisation by vB Optimise (Reduced on this page: MySQL 0%).
  • All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:02 AM.