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Old March 2nd, 2011, 02:21 AM
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Question We need help figuring out what kind of dog we have...

Hi, I am new here, but I am hoping for some help identifying what breed(s) make up a little guy that adopted us in November '10. We don't care what breed he is, but we are very curios though. He is all ours now, and no matter what breed he has in him, we are happy to add him to our mix.

This highly intelligent little guy showed up at our house in South Texas on November 11. He is so sweet, funny, and incredibly smart that we immediately fell in love with him. He blends well with our other 2 older dogs, and even our 22lb cat...although he does like to bark at her sometimes

My 14 yr old daughter and I, originally just called him Blue Eyes, but my husband said he needed a "real" name. I went with a play on Blue Eyes, and named him Frank Sinatra! Cheesy I know. He has the most wonderful crystal blue eyes, his right pupil has an odd look...it looks like the black pupil has run into the blue area. He hears very well (one of the first things I checked for was deafness), he also appears to have no problems with vision. He follows us all over the yard, & and even when inside. He is constantly watching all of us. We had to "baby proof" the house...he likes to chew...especially on plastic.

He is a yellow/blonde color, with white on the face, legs, neck, and chest. He has a freckled belly, and pink skin and freckles on top of his nose. He also has a very noticeable underbite. The last characteristic that stands out is that he has 5 toes on his back feet (no dew claw). His feet are very odd looking. LOL

I am going to try to post some pics. If anyone has any ideas on what breed he is, I would love to solve the mystery. 2 suggestions that we have gotten from several people are a Black Mouth Cur, or a Catahoula (sp?).

Thanks for any help you can lend
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 01:21 PM
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Welcome to pets.ca

Frank is a very handsome boy and glad he is fitting in well with your family.

I think he has Catahoula in him as well and perhaps some Norwegian Lundehund as the purebreds have six toes. He probably has a mix of several breeds.

Whatever he is, he sure is a cutie.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 03:04 PM
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Whatever he is, he's very cute, MrsLisa! Welcome to the board.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 04:48 PM
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Oh Boy!!!! Does Frank ever look like my Hank! Hank is a Lab Husky Shepard (thats what we have figured out so far!) He has very similar front paws to Frank and has the same freckles too! The fur even bunches in the same way on the neck! I am putting pictures on to see. Does he have
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 07:44 PM
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Wow! They do look a lot alike! Hank is adorable Thanks for replying
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 07:45 PM
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Thanks Hazelrunpack, we think he is pretty cute too Thanks for the welcome!
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 07:48 PM
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Rainbow, thanks for the reply. Also, thanks for the info on the 6 toes. Tried to google info on that several different ways, and just kept getting info on "Dew Claws"! I know this is not a Dew Claw, it is next to the other toes, AND there is a dew claw farther up the foot! LOL Thanks again
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 07:55 PM
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Rainbow, thanks for the reply. Also, thanks for the info on the 6 toes. Tried to google info on that several different ways, and just kept getting info on "Dew Claws"! I know this is not a Dew Claw, it is next to the other toes, AND there is a dew claw farther up the foot! LOL Thanks again
Google Norwegian Lundehund .....it is not a dew claw, the purebreds actually have 5 toes. And, I think they even look fairly similar to Frank.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 08:32 PM
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oops, I meant 5 toes, accidentely put in a 6. I will go look them up now! Thanks
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I am seeing australian shepherd mix too, with the above ideas as well.

Also, here is info on your pups unique eye

http://www.ashgi.org/articles/eyes_can_you_see.htm

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Iris Coloboma
Less devastating but still common, is the iris coloboma. Affected dogs are missing part of the iris. In many dogs the effect on their vision is minimal, however a large coloboma can force a dog to squint in bright light because the iris is incapable of contracting to reduce the amount of light entering the eye. This can cause minor discomfort as well as temporarily reducing the range of vision while squinting.

When having eye exams performed, it is important that the irises be examined before dilation. Some small colobomas may not be apparent when the eye is dilated and thus missed.

The mode of inheritance for iris coloboma is unknown. Until fairly recently, virtually all iris colobomas in Aussies were seen in merle dogs. In the past few years more and more iris colobomas are being reported in non-merles. The reason for this is not known, but it is possible that the gene for the defect is located on the same chromosome as the merle gene. Such genes are said to be "linked." Linked genes tend to be inherited together, though the process of recombination will mix them up. However, if two genes are located close to each other, they will only rarely become separated. This may have happened with the genes for merle and iris coloboma, resulting in the recent increase in non-merle Aussies with the defect.

Affected animals should not be bred. Unaffected individuals which produce it repeatedly, particularly with multiple mates, should be pulled from breeding.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 09:35 PM
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Kathryn, that's very interesting . I hadn't known about that type or sized coloboma. The ones we see sometimes here in Shelties are very minor in comparison, not visually noticeable. Do you have Aussies?
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Kathryn, that's very interesting . I hadn't known about that type or sized coloboma. The ones we see sometimes here in Shelties are very minor in comparison, not visually noticeable. Do you have Aussies?
No, but I desperately want one My mom won't let me have anymore pets though.. I mean I only have like 30 right now
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 12:09 AM
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Kathryn,
Thank You so much for the info. I wasn't sure what had caused it, this definitely explains it. Very interesting. Luckily, he will not be breeding. He is going to the vet and getting that taken care of in the next couple of months. Right now I am getting my 11 yr old , Buddy, on arthritis meds, and he has to have 2 teeth pulled. Those vet visits, and bills will be taken care of in the next month, and then it is his turn! I had wondered if there was a little Australian Shepherd in him too. My father in law has had Aussies, they are wonderful dogs!

Thanks again,
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 10:05 AM
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No problem. Check with your local SPCA's for low cost neutering that can sometimes save you a bundle.

Here is the Texas branch of Spay USA
http://www.spaytexas.org/

Hope that helps
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