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Old August 31st, 2010, 11:50 AM
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Check out timberland organics. My friend has her cats who had stomach issues and she switched from vet diet food to Serengetti and has not had any issues with it. Plus it is great quality and she says there coats have never looked so good. Good thing Nanook is passing gas bad for you if you are downwind
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Check out timberland organics. My friend has her cats who had stomach issues and she switched from vet diet food to Serengetti and has not had any issues with it. Plus it is great quality and she says there coats have never looked so good.

Thanks! I'll check it out. Hopefully we can get it around here.

Good thing Nanook is passing gas bad for you if you are downwind

No kidding! He sleeps on my side of the bed, and for some reason his bum is always by the head. I woke up night before last and my eyes were burning... and it smelled like a skunk , but it was just Nanook. I had to pull the covers over my head!

It's not always that bad, but sometimes... he can clear a room!
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Get a gas mask, sometimes they can be lethal,you know it is bad when they get up and move
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Ok, the food looks amazing, but I don't think we could feed it to Nanook. We bought him some Blue Buffalo Salmon and Sweet Potato cookies. He got bad gas and diarrhea both times we fed them to him, so we ended up throwing them out. We used to give him raw carrots. he LOVES them, but he doesn't digest them at all... there's always big chunks in his stools. The specialist thinks he has sensitivities to chicken, salmon and carrots... which, unfortunately, are in almost all of the really good kibble
She wants us to feed him something he hasn't been exposed to, so we put him on duck/rice. The bison looks great from Timberwolf until you read the ingredients which also include salmon meal and carrots. But ty for the suggestion! It does look like great food.
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Get a gas mask, sometimes they can be lethal,you know it is bad when they get up and move

LOL, yes... though he hasn't yet! He just sits there looking all cute and innocent, or sleeps right through it
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One night Bud was laying on the floor by my bed and all of a sudden it is like someone let off a stinkbomb, Bud casually gets up walks down the hall lies down and five minutes later comes back and assumes his spot. Meanwhile I could have died the smell was brutal
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One night Bud was laying on the floor by my bed and all of a sudden it is like someone let off a stinkbomb, Bud casually gets up walks down the hall lies down and five minutes later comes back and assumes his spot. Meanwhile I could have died the smell was brutal

LMAO... I completely understand! Thorin had gas as a pup, but nowhere near as bad as Nanook! Thorin was also mistreated as a puppy. We got him from an old couple on a farm. They kept all the pups in a box... with the lid on it! They were like lil mushrooms and not socialized at all. They said they couldn't afford to feed them so their diet (once weaned) consisted of boiled potatoes. Thorin has a bad tummy to this day (colitis), and hes almost 11. We always seem to end up with the special needs babies lol. It's ok though, justifies all the loves and spoiling we like to do


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Old August 31st, 2010, 02:16 PM
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I am at work too posting between shark attacks
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Shark attacks?!? You work in a lawyers office?
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No I am working on a documentary and just viewing a cut of the film. But that was a good guess
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Oh!!! Ok, so you meant literally!
Much more interesting than what I do
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What do you do to support your animals? I am a production coordinator this is the first doc I have worked on and it is great much different than the movies and television
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Just as a side note for you about Nanooks chicken allergy, my vet had originally told me that poultry or chicken fat was okay for Halo with her chicken allergy as the protein is not in the fat, but turned out not to be the case. We have avoided all kibble that lists poultry obviously, but also anything with poultry fat or even just animal fat as that could be poultry. As she has aged she is much less reactive to chicken, and we feed her chicken that we have cooked for ourselves or boiled for the dogs, but I still avoid foods with it as I don't want to overload her. We currently feed them Evo Regional Red. I haven't reread the entire thread yet, but I sure hope Nanook is doing better.
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Okay, laughing at Nanook letting out a long squeeky blow while sitting there. Shadow did that one day when we were in obedience class. It was the final test and everyone had to perform solo, as I put her in her sit/stay in the gym she let rip a really long noisy fart. Everyone was laughing and I was saying "It wasn't me!!!" You gotta love gassy dogs. Glad to read he seems so much better though.
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It was the final test and everyone had to perform solo, as I put her in her sit/stay in the gym she let rip a really long noisy fart. Everyone was laughing and I was saying "It wasn't me!!!" You gotta love gassy dogs. Glad to read he seems so much better though.
LOL... I can relate to that!!! This is before we realized how sick Nanook was. We had started a training class. He has always been very gasy (and stinky!). The whole class was sitting in a big circle and we were going around the circle introducing oursleves and our furkids. Just prior to our turn, Nanook let one go. It wasn't too loud, but very long and omgoodness... stinky!! The guy and his girlfriend sitting next to us had the most horrible expression and the guys turns to me and says "I don't mean to be rude, but could you trade seats with your husband?" I was horrified!! I said "That wasn't me, it was our puppy!!" He just looked at me, laughed and then said he knew it was the puppy. But he had the straightest face!! I was SO embarassed

He really does seem to be doing much better. He still tires very easy, and of course, is very gassy. But he's eating very well, drinking and being so cute
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Robin,so happy for you guys,Nanook is such a beautiful pup
My Rocky(cat)will let one go ever now and then and as small as he is,he manages to stink up the room.
The expression on his face though,is priceless,he kind of checks where that was coming from and usually leaves the room,in a confused state
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What do you do to support your animals? I am a production coordinator this is the first doc I have worked on and it is great much different than the movies and television
I'm almost afraid to say what I do lol. My profession isn't popular ! I'm an Insurance Agent. Hubby is an Insurance Agent and also branch Manager for a large insurance company as well.

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Just as a side note for you about Nanooks chicken allergy, my vet had originally told me that poultry or chicken fat was okay for Halo with her chicken allergy as the protein is not in the fat, but turned out not to be the case. We have avoided all kibble that lists poultry obviously, but also anything with poultry fat or even just animal fat as that could be poultry. As she has aged she is much less reactive to chicken, and we feed her chicken that we have cooked for ourselves or boiled for the dogs, but I still avoid foods with it as I don't want to overload her. We currently feed them Evo Regional Red. I haven't reread the entire thread yet, but I sure hope Nanook is doing better.
Thank you for the info. We were wondering about the chicken fat. I think it's best to just completely avoid any chicken products with him at this point. The Wellness food he's on now is just duck and rice, then vitamins and probiotics. So hopefully he will do well on it.
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Robin,so happy for you guys,Nanook is such a beautiful pup
My Rocky(cat)will let one go ever now and then and as small as he is,he manages to stink up the room.
The expression on his face though,is priceless,he kind of checks where that was coming from and usually leaves the room,in a confused state

LoL... too funny! Nanook will sometimes react. If it's a loud one he will jump, look at his bum and get that confused look as well. Cracks me up every time
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I think my insurance agent is great! Maybe we should start a new thread about "most hated" professions.... no maybe not, that could get ugly and we don't want to offend anybody.
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LOL... yes, that could be very ugly ! Might make for some good entertainment on a slow day though
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She thinks he may have Eosinophilic syndrome which often affects the stomach. Diet will be the main thing in keeping it in check. We recently switched him from Wellness large breed puppy to Wellness Simple Duck and Rice. It will be a few weeks before we know if it's going to help. If not, as much as we despise the vet diets, we may have to put him on one and just give him a good supplement. They have 1 diet that is hypo-allergenic and consists of hydrolized ingredients. I feel bad for him, though it doesn't seem to bother him most of the time, as long as he passes the gas.
He was sitting at my feet watching me put his pills in the "meatballs" and let out the longest, squeakiest one I have ever heard from a dog . He was smiling and wagging his tail the whole time
LOL I guess he felt so much better after wards....LOL

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No kidding! He sleeps on my side of the bed, and for some reason his bum is always by the head. I woke up night before last and my eyes were burning... and it smelled like a skunk , but it was just Nanook. I had to pull the covers over my head!

It's not always that bad, but sometimes... he can clear a room!
About the bum by your head put a bath towel over his butt so if he farts the towel will help hold it in. LOL

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Ok, the food looks amazing, but I don't think we could feed it to Nanook. We bought him some Blue Buffalo Salmon and Sweet Potato cookies. He got bad gas and diarrhea both times we fed them to him, so we ended up throwing them out. We used to give him raw carrots. he LOVES them, but he doesn't digest them at all... there's always big chunks in his stools. The specialist thinks he has sensitivities to chicken, salmon and carrots... which, unfortunately, are in almost all of the really good kibble
She wants us to feed him something he hasn't been exposed to, so we put him on duck/rice. The bison looks great from Timberwolf until you read the ingredients which also include salmon meal and carrots. But ty for the suggestion! It does look like great food.
about the raw carrots...i was told that dogs don't digest raw carrots that they do just go thru. ,,,u have to cook them and puree them for them to digest them. I gave Mindy a tiny carrot and it went thru her in chunks..but she loved eating them.

Frenchy gives her dogs carrots and she is the one that told me about them, I think. She said that the carrots are just for fun.

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LOL I guess he felt so much better after wards....LOL

LOL, if he didn't, I sure did! I needed the laugh

About the bum by your head put a bath towel over his butt so if he farts the towel will help hold it in. LOL

LOL!! I wonder if that would work?


about the raw carrots...i was told that dogs don't digest raw carrots that they do just go thru. ,,,u have to cook them and puree them for them to digest them. I gave Mindy a tiny carrot and it went thru her in chunks..but she loved eating them.

Frenchy gives her dogs carrots and she is the one that told me about them, I think. She said that the carrots are just for fun.

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Oh, thank you!! He REALLY loves carrots. It's such a good snack, and since he's always hungry with the pred and pheno, I didn't feel guilty giving them to him until the vet said he may be allergic or sensitive. He's going to be one happy lil puppy
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so happy to hear that Nanook is progressing well He looks like an adorable dog and hopefully he's on the way to recovery now. At least the vet and specialist you have now seem to be on the right track..finally,

Did you decide not to make the complaint to the AVMA? I probably would hesitate too knowing that your specialist works for the same corporation. However I'm sure the specialist knows what the first vet did/didn't do and I probably would mention that you feel like reporting him to her and see what she says. You could say it in an off hand manner as though you were just thinking that you'd like to do it but won't necessarily. Then go by her reaction whether you follow through.

The sample that was supposedly bungled by the lab may have been the fact that the sample the vet sent was inadequate for testing or not sent at all and the fact that you asked about it, resulted in them lying to you which would be very bad You could safely report that vet without affecting the corporation at all. It's quite possible this vet has other complaints against him and the more complaints the more likelihood something will be done about him by the corporation. I hate to think how many people/pets he has misdiagnosed and then charged them a huge sum of money for nothing.

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I've been awol for awhile and just read this. Glad to hear you have finally found a diagnosis for Nanook. How is he doing now?
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I've been awol for awhile and just read this. Glad to hear you have finally found a diagnosis for Nanook. How is he doing now?

Hi rainbow! So far, so good
He's was having some bloat issues, but he's been good the last few days! He started a month ago on a 60mg dose of pred daily for 2 weeks, then went to 40mg daily and now he's down to 30mg daily as of the last couple of days. He does seem to be showing a few minor neurological signs which the specialist did say may happen. So if he has another seizure she will boost the pred back up. She said he can't remain on that high of a dose so she will be adding a second immunosuppresant with fewer side effects and then lower the pred again.

Otherwise though, he's doing great! He's happy, playful and just being a little
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Glad to hear that Nanook is doing well.

Is it possible that he could go into remission sometime?
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Glad to hear that Nanook is doing well.

Is it possible that he could go into remission sometime?
It's entirely possible. The specialist doesn't know for sure what's wrong. The meningitis could be just that. Some puppies get it for no reason they can explain. If that's the case he may just need to be on steroids for 6-8 months and then be ok. But with all the other problems, like the tummy troubles and pneumonia, she thinks it's more of an auto-immune disease of some kind (eosiniphilic syndrome possibly), if that's what it is then he will most likely have to be on medication for life. Though she did say both of those could be side effects of the meds too. She said with the steroid responsive meningitis, he may have to be on a very low dose of pred for life as well, but only time will tell. Guess we will just have to wait and see. As long as he is playing, happy and not sufffering, we're happy too
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R.I.P. my sweet, handsome Thorin. You are missed dearly Dec. 25, 1999 - Mar. 4, 2012
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