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Old March 28th, 2010, 07:17 AM
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I cannot find anything to say,only sadness,spiced with anger, that euthanasia of"undesirables"now looks to be the new normlittle ones
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Old March 28th, 2010, 08:18 AM
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This just makes me sick to my stomach ....IMO the OSPCA had more than a say in it. That being said, had the THS worked with Rescues from day one then this would not have occurred. On the THS website it says "Under our NEW euthanasia policy"........

All 6 dogs were Pitties
The THS goes from hoarding/incarcerating animals for years on end to a 180 on it's euthanasia policy? With the exception of Janey pug x terrier all had excellent temperaments AND placements out of province was secured, What is going on here
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Old March 28th, 2010, 08:23 AM
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Awwww, man, I can't believe the OSPCA has done this . I really believe they don't believe in the no kill policy and wanted to change the THS and they saw their opportunity last summer .

What the world is wrong with transporting non aggressive pit bulls out of this frigging province so they can have a life . The OSPCA has really ticked me off and I WILL NEVER donate to them again.

I know there are two general feelings about euthanasia for space, but I think they've overstepped their boundries here. THS members have donated their money based on the policy of the shelter and for OSPCA to just walk in and change policy is just wrong!!!!!

Here is a quote from the article GG posted:


Some of the THS staff planned to stage a short walkout today in protest but those plans were canceled when possible repercussions were mentioned.


I thought one of the problems that people had with Tim was that outspoken people were terminated, well I guess it is the same with the OSPCA .
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Old March 29th, 2010, 06:52 AM
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Awwww, man, I can't believe the OSPCA has done this . I really believe they don't believe in the no kill policy and wanted to change the THS and they saw their opportunity last summer .

What the world is wrong with transporting non aggressive pit bulls out of this frigging province so they can have a life . The OSPCA has really ticked me off and I WILL NEVER donate to them again.

I know there are two general feelings about euthanasia for space, but I think they've overstepped their boundries here. THS members have donated their money based on the policy of the shelter and for OSPCA to just walk in and change policy is just wrong!!!!!

Here is a quote from the article GG posted:


Some of the THS staff planned to stage a short walkout today in protest but those plans were canceled when possible repercussions were mentioned.


I thought one of the problems that people had with Tim was that outspoken people were terminated, well I guess it is the same with the OSPCA .
The old/same BOD's are still running the THS ... BOTH are responsible for this decision not just the OSPCA

CP24 News Article & Video of the protest yesterday against euthanasia at the THS

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Old March 29th, 2010, 07:11 AM
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I have NO idea what BOD means GG ~ but, I'm sure I agree with you.

I know of NO valid reason for killing these dogs beyond a lack of intelligence on the part of the humans charged with their care.
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Old March 29th, 2010, 07:30 AM
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I have NO idea what BOD means GG ~ but, I'm sure I agree with you.

I know of NO valid reason for killing these dogs beyond a lack of intelligence on the part of the humans charged with their care.
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Old March 29th, 2010, 08:05 AM
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In the Star this morning,it says the dog-walkers were heartbroken and were protesting yesterday outside the THS.
OSPCA's explanation,the THS is a shelter,not a sanctuary for undesirable aggressive animals
I wonder if all the kitties were aggressive too

I have donated monthly to the OSPCA for years,but I think I'll redirect the money to our local HS,who have proven to me on several occasions,that every animal deserves a chance at life.
They have always been very helpful to me,whenever I needed help with an animal,be it a stray cat,a neglected dog,squirrels or a dead raccoon on the road.
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Old March 29th, 2010, 08:08 AM
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Board of Directors I'm so angry but speechless
Thanks for the translation.

Doesn't help me understand the decision any though but, nothing could.
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Old March 29th, 2010, 09:40 AM
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I can't read too much of this. I waver between weeping and murder.

http://onebarkatatime.blogspot.com/2...to-humane.html
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Old March 29th, 2010, 10:35 AM
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I can't read too much of this. I waver between weeping and murder.

http://onebarkatatime.blogspot.com/2...to-humane.html
OMG, Peti reminds me of a pittie I transported once, who so very quickly won over my and DH's heart. This just makes me cry
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Very very big mistake on their part. Bad move.

Most importantly are those lives that are lost.

RIP . May you never be discriminated again..ever.
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Old March 29th, 2010, 11:07 AM
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I don't know what to say
I do know what to say to the OSPCA
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Old March 29th, 2010, 11:10 AM
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Very very big mistake on their part. Bad move.

Most importantly are those lives that are lost.

RIP . May you never be discriminated again..ever.
They are trying to cover up the killings by stating they had aggression issues, that really makes me believe that you can't trust what they are saying.
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Old March 29th, 2010, 11:18 AM
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They are trying to cover up the killings by stating they had aggression issues, that really makes me believe that you can't trust what they are saying.
I opened this thread in the "Bully" section of the forum....it doesn't sound like they were agressive at all. ALL of these dogs were awaiting transport even though some of them were Legally Restricted and could have found adoptive homes in Ontario..... The OSPCA stopped the transport.

http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=69242
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Old March 29th, 2010, 11:22 AM
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They are trying to cover up the killings by stating they had aggression issues, that really makes me believe that you can't trust what they are saying.
Very very typical. The average reader would believe unfortunately.

I don't know what else to say but this is going to be a very long road and the dust will not settle for quite a while.
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Old March 29th, 2010, 04:02 PM
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Chris,thank you for pointing out that thread,although it was a wonderful tribute,it has me sobbing

I wrote and canceled my monthly donation to the OSPCA and clearly explained why.
Was there not about 1100 animals at the start??
How do we know a large portion was adopted out,how do we know they were not also killed?
I too think the OSPCA made a huge mistake,how can you trust them?
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You can't.
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Old March 30th, 2010, 09:08 AM
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THS wants to clear it's cages and start anew

This is just getting uglier by the day

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1516745/
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Old March 30th, 2010, 09:15 AM
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Best qoute of the article...actually the best thing that has been said period:

"“If we spent half as much time trying to adopt these animals as we did taking shots at each other there’d be no animals in the shelter, they’d all have homes,” she said. "

Now before they 'decide' to euthanize, can they not friggen invite rescues in to do their own evaluations and offer to take????
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Someone needs to point out to them what 'resetting' would do to their donation base. How many people are going to continue to support them if they take even more draconian measures?

They've obviously given up on these animals!
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Old March 30th, 2010, 09:33 AM
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They've obviously given up on these animals!
You hit the nail on the head.

Ok Chris - who do I contact over there?
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Old March 30th, 2010, 09:35 AM
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You hit the nail on the head.

Ok Chris - who do I contact over there?
You know if you need help in transport, I will be there for you, BenMax.
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You know if you need help in transport, I will be there for you, BenMax.
I know you would!

We can try right? There are so many wonderful rescues in Ontario that would pitch in and help...heck they come here to Quebec to help get animals out. They would be more than pleased helping the Ontario animals I am certain.

Time to get busy!
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I'm reading rumblings that it will never open again in it's current location and the land will be sold.......I can't exactly remember how long the THS has been on River Street, but the land value has skyrocketed in downtown Toronto since they opened there.
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You hit the nail on the head.

Ok Chris - who do I contact over there?
I think the OSPCA is pulling the punches right now, that the THS doesn't have much if any say in what is happening......I would think the Director of Animal Care at the OSPCA. They have a new Tootsie doing the job....I can make some enquiries.
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I think the OSPCA is pulling the punches right now, that the THS doesn't have much if any say in what is happening......I would think the Director of Animal Care at the OSPCA. They have a new Tootsie doing the job....I can make some enquiries.
Please let me know and I can try going to the source. There are many rescues chomping at the bit to help.
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Please let me know and I can try going to the source. There are many rescues chomping at the bit to help.
The new/acting Director of Animal Care is Tanya Firmage....I'm not sure of which route you should take, the OSPCA or the THS.....it seems that the THS wants to reopen in June, taking into consideration they plan to close for 6 - 8 weeks that would mean the animals have to be moved quickly.

This is an affadavit that Garth Jerome of the THS has signed and will be presented in court on April 6th.

It is a pdf document and is long:

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Old March 30th, 2010, 03:41 PM
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This is the reply I got after canceling my donations.

Dear Anita, I have cancelled you monthly donation for you, however we must send the file 3 business days before the first of the month so I was unable to stop the April payment..if you wish I can request a cheque for $15.00 as a refund of your April donation. I have also shared with you a statement from the Executive Director of THS which may help you understand the situation better. After reading this article you will realize that euthanasia is one of the most difficult decision that is made in shelters and it is something that is not taken lightly. Thank you so much for your past support and your continued support of the Oakville HS.
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Letter from THS Executive Director, Garth Jerome
To all staff, volunteers, members and supporters,

Our organization is entering a period of rapid change. These changes are for the better of the animals that we strive so diligently to care for. In many cases, change is difficult to accept, I extend my hand of warmth and gratitude to all of you. You are all brave and courageous and I admire you deeply. It is only through your hard efforts that The Toronto Humane Society has endured for so long and will continue to do so.

The Toronto Humane Society’s new euthanasia policy will not make it a ‘high-kill’ shelter. We will continue to treat sick and injured animals and make them available for adoption. Simply because an animal has a problem does not make them ‘unadoptable’.

That does not mean than euthanasia will not take place. The THS has never been a ‘no-kill’ shelter. We are going to focus on positive outcomes for the animals. This means that we will do everything we can to get every animal that comes into our shelter into a new loving home. In certain circumstances, those outcomes are not possible. The THS is a shelter, we are not an animal sanctuary who can house animals, who will never be available for adoption, indefinitely.

However difficult, we have been faced with some important decisions. The current animal population at the shelter consists of many animals who have been in the shelter for some length of time. They include animals whose quality of life is severely diminished due to illness, injury or present with serious behavioural issues which prevent us from placing them in homes, within the boundaries of our responsibilities. Some of these animals, especially dogs, have been a part of your lives for some time. I know that you will bear fond memories of them for years to come.

In the light of these facts, I have empowered the animal care staff to proceed with all reasonable means to deal with those animals who present with these conditions. We have a collective responsibility to ensure that the well-being and quality of life of all the animals in our care is our key priority.

The process around assessing the health and well-being of these 6 dogs has been exhaustive. We understand that for many people there is a huge emotional connection to these animals. For that reason, a number of procedures were followed to ensure that the decisions were fair and objective:

1. An in-house SAFER test was performed an all the dogs.

2. A number of rescue groups were approached to assess the dogs, with their own tests.

3. A “scorecard system”, developed by veterinarians was used to assess health, pain, suffering, temperament and many other parameters.

4. Independent consultants were asked to evaluate the dogs, based on their current condition.

5. Once all this data was collated, a panel of 8 persons, comprising veterinarians, representatives of the OSPCA and the THS, met to decide on their outcomes.

6. This meeting was scheduled to take place on Thursday, April 1, 2010. Due to a number of concerns around safety of employees, volunteers and the animals themselves, this meeting was moved to Friday, March 26, 2010, as a matter of urgency.

The Toronto Humane Society was required to consider additional factors in this decision. While tentative agreements were made to place some of these dogs in rescues, there are legal obstacles which have presented themselves. A number of the dogs had severe temperament concerns and aggression. Many had bite orders. All of these factors need to be considered when deciding on the most humane course of action, within the bounds of the law.

Once the animals were evaluated, euthanasia decisions were made on 6 of the animals assessed. These 6 dogs were not able to be adopted, fostered or transferred. The only outcome for them was to live in the shelter indefinitely. That is not an acceptable animal care practice. The THS made the extremely difficult, but appropriate decision.

I wish to assure all of you that no animal in the care of The Toronto Humane Society shall be allowed to suffer at any point in its care. There is clear and positive direction and that is the road ahead.

We understand that this is a very emotional and difficult time for you if you are staff, volunteers, supporter or an animal lover. Here, there have been tears and sorrow as well. Please know that these decisions are not taken lightly.

Sincerely,

Garth Jerome
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Old March 30th, 2010, 03:46 PM
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Nice bunch of blah, blah Chico.....The more I have read about the dogs that were euthanized what a bunch of bull.....only one of the dogs had issues, not one of the Pitbulls. Janey had led a life of abuse and was only a little thing that could probably have been turned around if the staff/volunteers were allowed.

SHAME ON THEM ALL.
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