Go Back   Pet forum for dogs cats and humans - Pets.ca > Discussion Groups - mainly cats and dogs > Dog training - dog behavior > Cat behavior forum - cat training

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old February 16th, 2009, 08:08 AM
Khari's Avatar
Khari Khari is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 197
Question Moving into apartment with cat that sprays - HELP!

I am looking for some tips on preventing a cat from spraying when
moving into a new apartment.

I'll give you some background....about ten years ago my sister got 2
brother cats and lived in an apartment with them for a couple of
years. They were both neutered and had no spraying incidents at the apartment. Simba is a very nonchalant cat. Likes just
about everybody and is always around. Dragon has a dominant
personality. He is very distant and does not like to be around much.
My sister moved back home to our parents house about 3 years later. My
parents have had cats our entire lives and different bathroom accidents
have taken place throughout their house over the years with various
kitties. We had a male cat that lived there for 22 years and passed
away about a year before they moved back home. Only one older female
cat remained when they moved home. She passed away shortly after their arrival.

Dragon started spraying gradually over the years. The vet said it was
behavioural. I moved home for about 8 months with my male and female
cat and Dragon sprayed constantly. Even though we had them
quarantined from eachother. I moved out about a year and a half ago
and he still sprays (not as often though). My sister and I are
looking for any advice on starting fresh with Dragon in a new
apartment because she will be moving out in the next couple of
months. She is going to purchase some feliway diffusers to put
throughout the apartment. And purchase a collar to spray with feliway
for him to wear.

We are hoping that he will not feel territorial in a new apartment
but can't expect this. Especially if other cats lived in the
apartment before they arrived.

My sister does not really want to give him medication but would
consider going with something more natural.

Thank you in advance for any advice given!
Take care
__________________
Khari
Mom to Male Cat Bishop (14 Years Old) and Female Cat Lexus (11 Years Old) and new addition Female Cat Lily (around 8 years old)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old February 16th, 2009, 08:15 AM
Winston's Avatar
Winston Winston is offline
Mom of 3 precious Angels
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hamilton Ontario
Posts: 7,068
I wonder if rescue remedy would work?
__________________
Tabitha April 10, 1995 - August 23, 2013
Bomber April 10, 1995 - July 12, 2010
Winston Nov 15, 1999 - September 15, 2011
Sophie Aug 30, 2011

"UNTIL ONE HAS LOVED AN ANIMAL, PART OF THEIR SOUL REMAINS UNAWAKENED"
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
-Unknown
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old February 16th, 2009, 08:22 AM
Khari's Avatar
Khari Khari is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 197
What is rescue remedy? Where can it be purchased? Have you heard it being used for cats that spray and being successful?

Thanks for responding by the way
__________________
Khari
Mom to Male Cat Bishop (14 Years Old) and Female Cat Lexus (11 Years Old) and new addition Female Cat Lily (around 8 years old)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old February 16th, 2009, 10:11 AM
14+kitties's Avatar
14+kitties 14+kitties is offline
150% PRO S/N
Starcastle Champion, V:force Champion, UFO Shoot Out Champion, Parachute Panic Champion, Mission To Mars Champion, Disc Dash Champion, Crazy Closet Champion, Railway Line Champion, Penguin Pass Champion
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: MYOB
Posts: 15,408
Also... your sister could ask the landlord if there have been cats/dogs in the apartment before. If the answer is yes then before the cats are moved (stressful in itself) your sister should go through the apartment with Nature's Miracle or some other enzyme cleaner and thoroughly clean the apartment. Even if the carpets, etc. have been cleaned by the landlord. You may not be able to smell old urine but the cat sure can.

http://www.tisol.ca/content/pet_supp...es_miracle.asp
__________________
Assumptions do nothing but make an ass out of u and me.

We can stick our heads in the sand for only so long before it starts choking us. Face it folks. The pet population is bad ALL OVER THE WORLD!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old February 16th, 2009, 12:01 PM
ancientgirl's Avatar
ancientgirl ancientgirl is offline
Senior Contributor
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 15,069
You can also try Feliway. Chico uses it because her cat Rocky was spraying and she says it's really helped him stop.
__________________
There are only two rules at my house: House rule #1. Cats rule. House rule #2. See rule #1.

http://nuriaandthegang.shutterfly.com/
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old February 16th, 2009, 04:24 PM
chico2's Avatar
chico2 chico2 is offline
Senior Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oakville Ontario
Posts: 26,593
AG,unfortunately he is at it againI have to go on pee-patrol every morning,it's really,really frustrating.
The Feli-Ways worked great for a long time,but don't seem to work anymore:sad:
__________________
"The cruelest animal is the Human animal"
3 kitties,Rocky(r.i.p my boy),Chico,Vinnie
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old February 16th, 2009, 05:47 PM
ancientgirl's Avatar
ancientgirl ancientgirl is offline
Senior Contributor
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 15,069
Oh chico that's terrible. Maybe you just have to stop using it for a couple of months so they can sort of start over again.
__________________
There are only two rules at my house: House rule #1. Cats rule. House rule #2. See rule #1.

http://nuriaandthegang.shutterfly.com/
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old February 18th, 2009, 11:30 AM
catlover2's Avatar
catlover2 catlover2 is offline
Catlover2
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: GTA (Greater Toronto Area)
Posts: 1,031
khari, ok let's see if I understand this correctly...you and your sister are going to be sharing a new apartment with all four cats? Yes, it will be too much for Dragon to expect not to mark his "new territory", given his history of spraying and his personality of not being very social. I haven't had any experience with those Feliway diffusers, so don't know whether they really work or not. Your vet is right that Dragon's behaviour is likely behaviourial. You might ask your vet to put him on some sort of calming medication a couple weeks before you move and keep him on it for a month afterwards and gradually wean him off it. Spraying is about marking terrority, but also can be a reaction to stress. Some cats can tolerate other cats around in a confined area, but some can't.

By the way Bach "Rescue Remedy" is a homeopathic medicine (mostly alcohol), found in health food stores, or homeopathic section of a pharmacy. Some people have found it useful by putting a few drops in the drinking water. I'm not completely convinced it works, but who knows? Good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old April 15th, 2009, 07:38 PM
Khari's Avatar
Khari Khari is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 197
Update on Dragon and the Move into an Apartment

Just wanted to give an update on the move into the one bedroom apartment on the 3rd floor...

My sister started giving Dragon some of the Bach Pet rescue Remedy and Anaflora flower Essences "Cat Spraying formula" about a week before the move. She also started to transition him to a wet grainfree diet (all his urinalysis came up with was a PH of 7 and a bit of bacteria). So we are more convinced that the spraying is due to territorial/behavior. She did not take anything into the apartment that had been sprayed on (ie. dressers, bookcases, blankets, clothing, rubbermaid containers, boxes, etc.). She has 2 litterboxes. She plugged in 2 feliway diffusers (one in the hallway and one in the living room). She has continued the flower essence and RR. So far - fingers crossed it is now almost 2 weeks in the apartment and no spraying incidents. Also, being on the 3rd floor may be good because no cats around on the balcony in his territory. As of now she keeps her bedroom door closed when she is not home.

We are very optimistic for the future....

As of right now we can't say what is helping with his progress or if anything is really helping but she will definately continue to replace the feliway diffusers and continue the cat spraying formula. In another 2 weeks she will take him off of the RR.

Here are some flower essence websites if anybody is interested (if you do searches on the internet you can sometimes find them cheaper):

http://www.anaflora.com/index.htm

http://www.bachflower.com/Pets.htm

http://www.spiritessence.com/

http://www.essencesonline.com/AusBushmain.htm
__________________
Khari
Mom to Male Cat Bishop (14 Years Old) and Female Cat Lexus (11 Years Old) and new addition Female Cat Lily (around 8 years old)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old April 18th, 2009, 12:03 PM
catlover2's Avatar
catlover2 catlover2 is offline
Catlover2
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: GTA (Greater Toronto Area)
Posts: 1,031
Khari, thanks for the update, often people don't bother and we wonder what happened. Glad to hear everything's working out so far. It doesn't really matter what's working to eliminate the spraying, as long as it is working. It's a good idea to decrease one of the remedies gradually as planned. Sounds like your sister is doing everything right. Here's hoping Dragon continues to be a good boy.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Terms of Use

  • All Bulletin Board Posts are for personal/non-commercial use only.
  • Self-promotion and/or promotion in general is prohibited.
  • Debate is healthy but profane and deliberately rude posts will be deleted.
  • Posters not following the rules will be banned at the Admins' discretion.
  • Read the Full Forum Rules

Forum Details

  • Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
    vBulletin Optimisation by vB Optimise (Reduced on this page: MySQL 0%).
  • All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:53 AM.