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Old February 10th, 2008, 02:10 AM
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Great Life "Rubicon" Dog Food

I stumbled across this line of food tonight. It is called Great Life "Rubicon" dog food, which is grain-free & potato-free. Anyone ever heard of it? This company makes some interesting statements about the use of potato in dog foods.

http://www.miraclemix.com/rubicondog.html
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Old February 11th, 2008, 02:37 AM
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I have heard of it but didn't think it had enough meat in it so didn't check it any closer. Very interesting about the potato claim though.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 02:47 AM
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I just did a search and found this statement from http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1 ...

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Acrylamide
This is a carcinogenic compound formed at cooking temperatures of about 250°F in foods containing certain sugars and the amino acid asparagine (found in large amounts in potatoes and cereal grains). It is formed in a chemical process called the Maillard reaction.4, 5 Most dry pet foods contain cereal grains or potatoes, and they are processed at high temperatures (200–300°F at high pressure during extrusion; baked foods are cooked at well over 500°F); these are perfect conditions for the Maillard reaction. In fact, the Maillard reaction is considered desirable in the production of pet food because it imparts a palatable taste, even though it reduces the bioavailability of some amino acids, including taurine and lysine.6 The content and potential effects of acrylamide formation in pet foods are unknown.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 03:21 AM
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According to this website (http://www.naturalnews.com/021428.html) acrylamide is also found in sweet potatoes and yams are an ingredient in Great Life Rubicon food.

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Acrylamides also form in other starches, such as toasted oats, flour, or sweet potatoes. Being organic doesn't seem to affect the presence of acrylamides.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 12:22 PM
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Orijen is cooked at low temps to avoid this:

http://www.championpetfoods.com/orijen/faq/#Potatoes
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Old February 11th, 2008, 12:23 PM
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I was just thinking does this mean we have a carcinogen when we cook potatoes too?
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Old February 11th, 2008, 12:31 PM
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Hubby's nephew is working on his masters degree in Bio Chemistry. I'll pass along the question and see what he can find out.

According to the Wiki site on Acrylamide, that compound isn't present from boiling. Just baking and frying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide

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However, studies in human populations have failed to produce consistent results, and it remains unclear whether this is due to a reduced risk in a natural setting or the methodological difficulties inherent in such studies. For example, it might be difficult to isolate the effects of acrylamide because it is so ubiquitous in Western diets.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 12:33 PM
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Orijen is cooked at low temps to avoid this:

http://www.championpetfoods.com/orijen/faq/#Potatoes

Yeah, Orijen is cooked at 195 Celsius.
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Yeah, Orijen is cooked at 195 Celsius.
90°C actually. Even better.
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90°C actually. Even better.
Oooopps....you are right. It is 195 degrees Fahrenheit. Thanks for correcting me.
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So is GO! Natural! (cooked at 90 degrees)
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@Rainbow - Great Life Rubicon food -

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According to this website (http://www.naturalnews.com/021428.html) acrylamide is also found in sweet potatoes and yams are an ingredient in Great Life Rubicon food.
Sweet Potatoes and Yams are not the same. Yams are in Rubicon. Sweet Potatoes are not.

http://homecooking.about.com/od/howt...potatodiff.htm

"The true yam is the tuber of a tropical vine (Dioscorea batatas) and is not even distantly related to the sweet potato."
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