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Old July 2nd, 2008, 10:26 AM
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Some help for a friends dog

Hi guys! My friend is worried about her dog. I was speaking with her this morning and she told me there's something wrong with him. We have an appointment for my vet tomorrow, but I was told to call this evening before the shift change to see if there are any cancellations. I told my friend if she sees no change in him or if he's worse, to just take him in anyway. It will be an emergency charge, but better safe than sorry. I offered to pay for this from a credit card I've been keeping in case of emergencies, since she's going through just as hard a time financially as I am.

I told her I'd post the details of what's going on with her dog in the hopes some of you might have an idea of what could be wrong with him or had a similar experience. The pup in question is Louie.

Here's the story:

This is exactly what I’ve seen… when I got home last night, he was fine. Gabriel took him out for a walk and he says that he pooped normal (not runny or bloody) and he peed and he didn’t puke or anything. Then I was petting his back and when I got near his stomach, I noticed he would twitch a bit. As the evening wore on, I noticed he would twitch even more until finally he would even cry every time I even touched his stomach area. Then I noticed he didn’t want to walk. He just wanted to lay down. And he was trembling too. But his nose was cold and wet so I didn’t think he had a fever but again, as the evening wore on… I started to notice that his nose was drier and warm so I gave him a Tylenol. Then I tried to walk him but he didn’t want to do anything. He would just put his muzzle and front paws low to the ground and his butt up in the air. Then walking up the stairs seemed to hurt him too. I didn’t know what else to do for him so I put him to bed and I kept checking up on him throughout the night but he was asleep each time. So… he didn’t eat anything or drink anything last night. Except Gabriel, in an attempt to check his appetite, gave him a piece of ham and he ate it. I took this as a good sign because if he felt THAT terrible, he wouldn’t have eaten it.

This morning, he walked down the stairs very gingerly and he peed but he didn’t poop. Then when it was time to go back up, he didn’t want to climb the stairs so I had to carry him up. When I got upstairs, he laid down on the rug right away and he didn’t move from there until it was time for me to leave. And that’s all I know. I checked his gums and initially they looked a little pale but then they looked alright. It’s like they fluctuate.

I’m hoping that he didn’t get worms or anything from that tick infestation we had a few weeks ago. I only ever found a single tick on him and it wasn’t that big and, of course, I promptly removed it. Besides, Gordo was the one that had a ton of them on him and he’s just fine. And Twiggy was the one that puked yesterday after we got home. But he’s fine too.

The only other thing I can think of is that the day before yesterday, I didn’t walk them in the morning because Gabriel’s been doing it but he didn’t walk them that day either because he was going about a job interview and he thought I had done it (because I hadn’t physically asked him that one time). I don’t know if holding it in all day might have caused an infection or something because there was no poop in the cage when I got home. But honestly, Twiggy could have eaten it if they HAD pooped in there. He’s done that before.


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Old July 2nd, 2008, 10:50 AM
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Honestly, if he were one of mine, ancientgirl, Louie would be in to the e-vet, hang the cost. A back injury or an intestinal blockage could be causing those symptoms. For either of these maladies, quick treatment can make a huge difference in recovery!

She should also have the tests done for tick-borne diseases, which can also cause lethargy, loss of appetite and skeletal pain...

Also, no more tylenol!!! Acetaminophen can be toxic to dogs.

that she can get him to the vet quickly and for a good prognosis!

You're a good friend for helping out, ancientgirl
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:15 AM
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Hazel, thanks for your quick response.

I actually thought about the whole tick thing after she told me about it this morning. I also wondered about the Tylenol, but didn't say anything without being sure. She's had dogs her whole life, so I figured she knew what she was doing.

Had I known about this yesterday, I'd have told her to just meet me at the vets. As it is, I only found out about it today. I'm going to call the vet's office again and see if there is anyway we can get squeezed in. I'm going to tell her to lets take him anyway, but I've only got about $400 on my credit card, and if I can same the cost of the emergency visit to help with any treatment that will help.
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There are so many symptoms of bloat or a blockage in there that I would at the e-vet yesterday if it were me.

I really hope it turns out well for your friend's dog, let us know.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 06:19 PM
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My friend just called me and she said she wants to wait until tomorrow. I can't really force her to take him today. Personally, I would have taken him immediately, but that's me. She said he pooped normal and doesn't seem as bad. But now she thinks, as suggested by her sister, he might have a broken rib.

I had made an appointment for tomorrow and right now all I can do is just wait and go with her tomorrow.

I just hope the waiting isn't going to make whatever he has worse.:sad:
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Well, at least one of the main worries is eliminated--if he pooped normally, likely it isn't bloat or a blockage! That was the possibility that bothered me the most... So, "whew!"

for tomorrow.
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But now she thinks, as suggested by her sister, he might have a broken rib.

Did she say why he might have a broken rib? It sounds like there may be more to the story if it is broken. Good luck at the vet.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 06:02 AM
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So something obviously happened that makes them believe it's a broken rib, it would be nice to know what caused it.
Poor dog, I know they can't do much for that, but they may be able to give him something for the pain, and to make sure the rib isn't puncturing anything. :sad:

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A broken rib would require quite an impact, there must have been something in this story that they haven't told you about.

that the puppy will be OK.
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Ancient,thank's for being a good friend to the pup
Hopefully your friend will get some answers today
It's strange,since joining this Forum,I look at dogs a different way,Fate,Bailey and little Peppi(the Bichon) and now a HoundX up the street,who "bays"(barks)a lot and gets yelled at a lot(no I am not getting involved)
You cannot make people do the right thing and often it causes anxiety and worry,at least in me
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Sending some for some results from the vet visit. I hope it is something that can be helped. I hate to see animals in pain.
Rainbow, clm and L4H are right. A broken rib would require quite the impact.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 08:27 AM
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Hey guys! Thanks for all of your comments and suggestions.

I just talked to her and she said when they took him out again last night he was much improved. He ate, he went up and down the stairs with no problem and he was walking like he used to.

I mentioned to my friend if she still thought he had a broken rib, and she said that she can't see how. She realized it would have to be a hard impact, and she can't imagine how that could have happened. She said it's possible he might have bruised himself playing with his cell mate (she keeps both her dogs in one big cage while at work).

She said her boyfriend was going to be home all day and he was going to keep an eye on him. She also told me if he was better by this evening she would forgo the vet visit. I told her a check up would be a good idea, but she doesn't want to do it right now

I told her to let me know how he's doing later and that my offer still stands to pay for his vet visit.

Chico, since I joined this forum I always try to read the posts about dogs too. Even though I don't have a dog, I think it's good to stay informed and to have an idea of how they are. I'd like to have a dog some day, if I ever get a bigger place.
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ancient,we've had 3 dogs in our lifetime,a shep/chowX,a Sheltie and a Cockerspaniel,I wish I knew then,what I know now.
I love dogs too,would love to have a large dog,a Great Dane,Rottie ,Golden a German Sheperd or a mix of them allbut it's just not possible.
So,I borrow Bailey,the neighborsI just wish she knew how to play and not just eat
I hope your friends pup is ok
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 09:01 AM
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I hope to have one in the future. I'd love to have a Rottie or a German Shepard. I'd love a pit bull, but sadly the morons in the Miami city government have deemed to have them banned.:sad: Maybe in the future that will change.

I hope by later today to hear Louie is back to his old self. When I talked to my friend she was happy that he'd improved and she felt he'd be back to normal later.
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