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Old April 11th, 2007, 01:05 PM
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Is Moth Poisonous To Dogs?

Last night, my Lab caught a moth and ate it. This morning he was drooling like crazy after his walk. I didn't see him picking up other stuff during the walk. Could this cause by the reaction to the moth he ate?
At this time of the year around here, a lot of lawns are spayed with chemicals. I still remember last year he had stomach problem a few days after we fertilize our back yard. I just can't believe these chemicals are truly pet friendly as most claimed.
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Old April 11th, 2007, 01:10 PM
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If he is still drooling I would take him to the vet. I wouldn't want to leave it too long just in case
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Old April 11th, 2007, 01:14 PM
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Hi there. I am an entomologist and have studied Leps (moths & butterflies) for years.

Some families of moths are rather noxious and contain distasteful compounds as a defense against bats. However, this is not designed to make predators sick, rather just deter them from eating similar looking moths again. Where are you located? I can't think of any NA moths that would be especially dangerous.

In my experience, eating moths would not make your dog sick. I have seen foaming mouths after my labs ate a large toad, but not insects. This being said - there is obviously something wrong with your pup and you should definitely see a vet.

In the past, my dogs have eaten several moths and never had a problem. I have even tasted a few (not on purpose!) and have been fine. The concentration of the noxious chemicals would be quite low - however, it is possible that your dog may have had a specific reaction. I would be more inclined to think that pesticides on lawns would be a more likely candidate for making your dog sick.

It would be best to see a vet asap. Let us know how it turns out!
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Old April 11th, 2007, 02:49 PM
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Thank you for the quick response! I am over at the left coast in the suburb of Vancouver.

It is around noon over here and he seems fine now. It must be one of those morning he doesn't want to come to work with me. I used to take him to work once or twice a week on days that DW has had to go out. He is getting more and more difficult nowadays. Sure it's more comfortable at home watching the kitchen all day, you know what I mean. At work, he sleeps all morning until lunch then I'll take him out for a little walk.

He is now whining to tell me it's time to go. Bye!
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Old April 11th, 2007, 05:17 PM
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Just to add - lawn chemicals are not pet friendly or people friendly. I would avoid using any chemicals on your lawn especially if you have pets and small children.

It's not the most environmental thing to do either - hopefully we can change some things in cities and ban pesticide use and revert back to more natural gardening practices. Toronto has a pesticide by-law - I think it would be great if other cities catch on!
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Old April 11th, 2007, 10:42 PM
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Hi there. I am an entomologist and have studied Leps (moths & butterflies) for years.
Really? That's awesome!
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Old April 13th, 2007, 08:22 AM
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Well I am glad to hear he seems ok now... You are in Van (lucky! It is so beautiful there)...I really can't think of any poisonous moths with a distribution that covers BC, so I think moth eating is relatively Ok

When we would go out collecting for moths, we put up a white sheet in the forest and hang a black light. This attracts TONS of moths. Before I got my own pups, I would bring my parent's chocolate lab, Jake with me. He would sit there at the sheet and just eat the moths off of the sheet. I did my best to discourage it...but he loved it - it was like a candy store for him.
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Old April 13th, 2007, 11:52 AM
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Good protein source! Maybe we should have more insect foods! My dogs would love fly cookies. Although, maybe the fun comes more from the chase!
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Old April 13th, 2007, 03:20 PM
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He would sit there at the sheet and just eat the moths off of the sheet. I did my best to discourage it...but he loved it - it was like a candy store for him.
Being a Lab's dad, I can appreicate what a vaccuum cleaner they are. He had eaten all kind of bugs before. And that's why I don't always pry his mouth open to get the bugs out. I have had taken all sort of things from his mouth during our walks and the worst one was a slimmy slug. Thank God he doesn't eat feces.

BTW, how would you like to see a Canuck vs Senator Stanley Cup final?
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BTW, how would you like to see a Canuck vs Senator Stanley Cup final?
That's all Greek to me...or should I say Hockey? All a foreign language to me... (oops...or is that heresy to admit on a primarily Canadian forum? I've heard rumors about hockey fever up north )

But as to lawn chemicals, we have English setters, which seem to be very sensitive to lawn chemicals. When we lived in town, we noticed that every time someone aroudn us got their lawns sprayed, the dogs would get sick...drooling, sometimes vomiting, sometimes lethargic.

The chemicals are definitely not pet or people friendly. In some cities, the chemicals turn up in the ground water...yum, eh? Wanna glass of water?

Eventually the state started a notification list--if you signed up for the service, before anyone within a few blocks of you was sprayed, you were notified. We signed up in a hurry and just kept the dogs in as much as possible on days we knew there was going to be spraying. It helped a lot.
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Old April 17th, 2007, 08:42 AM
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Hazelrunpack - that is awful that your dogs would react so strongly to the lawn chemicals. Doesn't that make you think they obviously should stop use of them all together? At least I think so.

TKW - You better believe, I would love to see that...but of course I would be cheering for a Sens win. We deserve it, we have been waiting sooo long.
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Old April 17th, 2007, 10:07 AM
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We have a big problem here with our waterways. People use a tonn of these chemicals and then complain about the algae problems.

Not healthy for your lawn either as it kills all the beneficial microorganisms in the soil and really makes your lawn suceptable to the invasion of weeds and other pests.

Down with the lawn chemicals I say!
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