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Old March 25th, 2007, 02:35 PM
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Talking Timberwolf Organics Manufacturer

WA HOO .....I found it !!!

Timberwolf Organics kibble is manufactured at Chenango Valley Pet Foods in Sherburne, NY. Does anyone know anything about this plant?
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Old March 25th, 2007, 02:38 PM
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No, but that leads to so much new info...
http://www.petfoodinstitute.org/pfi_...?search=Active
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Old March 25th, 2007, 02:39 PM
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I don't know about the plant, but it's not that far away here. So why couldn't I get TO here!
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Old March 25th, 2007, 02:43 PM
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They help feed ferals in NY:

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CNYCC can offer high quality, low-cost dry cat food to feed your strays or a colony of ferals. Nutritious food is available through our bulk purchase program with Chenango Valley Pet Foods of Sherburne, NY
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/cnycatcoalition/
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Old March 25th, 2007, 02:45 PM
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And it's on "The 888 most dangerous workplaces in New York State" list...
http://www.nycosh.org/reference_libr...te-ny2003.html
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Old March 25th, 2007, 03:00 PM
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Rainbow, how'd you manage to pry that out of them?
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Old March 26th, 2007, 12:41 AM
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Yeah Rainbow, good detective work .
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Old March 26th, 2007, 09:35 AM
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Rainbow!!

Thanks for the info. You should be a detective!
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Old March 26th, 2007, 11:44 AM
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Thank you for attaining that information. I feel better now knowing that it's not MenuFoods.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 02:01 PM
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Actually, I didn't "pry" it out of them, MP......I found the info on another forum. There was someone here (can't remember who ) that was going to ask a distributor they know to divulge the big secret. I'm hoping they do and it confirms what I found.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 03:55 PM
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Here's some web info on the plant...Anyone else hear about this?

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An L.A.-based distributor of dog and cat foods won more than $318,000 in damages from a manufacturer that supplied it with moldy dog food.

Natural Balance Pet Foods Inc., co-founded by actor Dick Van Patten, sued New York's Chenango Valley Pet Foods Inc. in July 2001 for "mold-related losses" that began in October 1999, according to a Sept. 30 ruling in 2nd Appellate District.

Natural Balance recalled much of the food, but not before the Israeli Department of Agriculture banned its products. A regular Israeli customer, who ordered two 20-foot-long containers of dog food per month, demanded reimbursement for sales and marketing costs, the ruling says.

A Los Angeles jury awarded Natural Balance $281,345 in damages, plus expert witness fees and prejudgment interest. The three-judge panel, on appeal, affirmed all but the prejudgment interest.

Natural Balance attorney, Brian Neill, a partner at Zinder and Park PC in North Hollywood, said the damages relate to lost profits between August 2000 and August 2002.

Jim Loveder, a partner at Howard Loveder Strickroth & Parker LLP in Santa Ana, and the attorney for Chenango, said the actual damages came closer to $50,000 or $60,000.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 06:09 PM
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OH MY GOSH, OH MY GOSH, OH MY GOSH!!!!

If Timberwolf Organics is produced there, how is that their foods have mangaged to escape these kinds of problems?

Hhhmmm.....I really like the DVP Natural Balance line, too. :sad:
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Old March 26th, 2007, 06:12 PM
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That was back in 2001....hopefully, they've cleaned up their act by now.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 06:17 PM
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Starting to see why the information was "proprietary." I wonder if it was only food with grain in it.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 07:14 PM
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I would think so....they're the only foods that would have mold issues. Even so, I hope Chenango has improved their quality control and I just hope that Timberwolf is using dedicated lines.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 09:06 PM
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........I just hope that Timberwolf is using dedicated lines.
What do you mean by 'dedicated lines?'
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Old March 26th, 2007, 09:49 PM
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What do you mean by 'dedicated lines?'
I think she means that she hopes TO has their own production machinery inside the plant. That way, another company's crappy ingredients wouldn't contaminate TO's food.

I would also be interested to know what other companies use that facility.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 10:33 PM
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I think she means that she hopes TO has their own production machinery inside the plant. That way, another company's crappy ingredients wouldn't contaminate TO's food.......
OH, I see what you mean. It would make sense for them to have their own machinery.....I certainly hope that's the case.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 10:47 PM
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OH, I see what you mean. It would make sense for them to have their own machinery.....I certainly hope that's the case.
Yes, but it would also make sense for them to disclose the location of their plant publicly. Really don't know what to do, I'm so close to switching to TO, but I still have major reservations.
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Old March 27th, 2007, 11:38 AM
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Yes, but it would also make sense for them to disclose the location of their plant publicly. Really don't know what to do, I'm so close to switching to TO, but I still have major reservations.
Yep, it's weird that there's not more transparency as far as pet food companies go. This recall seems to bring up a lot of dirty little secrets.

Worrier, if you still have reservations, it may be best to find a company you feel better about? I know how hard it is though, 'cause I just went through it with my little guy.
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Old March 27th, 2007, 05:43 PM
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Way to go Rainbow!!!! While I have to admit, I have mixed feelings about this answer and about the way the company seems so secrative, I will still keep on feeding Petey TO. It's been the best food for him that I've ever tried.
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Old March 27th, 2007, 06:13 PM
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Our TO is gone.. We have 2 pounds of Orijen and grudgingly 6 of wellness before we decide...
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Old March 27th, 2007, 06:24 PM
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Ummmm....somebody could email TO and tell them their secret is out all over the internet and see what they say.
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Old March 27th, 2007, 07:00 PM
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I assume I'm on their blacklist. They didn't care much that due to secrecy I was going to likely have to switch kibble companies. Doubt they'd care if I pointed out their secret seems to be out.
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Old March 27th, 2007, 07:20 PM
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I don't assume.....I know I'm on their blacklist. Maybe we should do it anyway. The more people that they hear from with "their secret" the better.
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Old March 27th, 2007, 07:21 PM
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I would also be interested to know what other companies use that facility.
I can't find a website for them....only an address and phone number.
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Old March 27th, 2007, 07:25 PM
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I can't find a website for them....only an address and phone number.
I was just trying to find one as well, Rainbow. If anyone has it, please let us know!

ETA: Oops, never mind, I just found it.

Customer.Support@Timberwolforganics.com

From their site:
http://timberwolforganics.com/s.nl/it.I/id.13/.f
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Yep, and I've now now emailed them four, count em' 4 times. Timberwolf is my last-chance at kibble so I've been persisent. Apparently they don't care.
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Old March 27th, 2007, 08:10 PM
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Yep, and I've now now emailed them four, count em' 4 times. Timberwolf is my last-chance at kibble so I've been persisent. Apparently they don't care.
Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside doesn't it.. Makes me thrilled to pour 75ish bucks per 33 pound bag their way...
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Old March 28th, 2007, 05:54 PM
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I was just trying to find one as well, Rainbow. If anyone has it, please let us know!

ETA: Oops, never mind, I just found it.

Customer.Support@Timberwolforganics.com

From their site:
http://timberwolforganics.com/s.nl/it.I/id.13/.f

I meant I can't find a website for Chenango Valley Pet Foods, the manufacturing plant that makes Timberwolf Organics. I can only find their address and phone number. I was hoping to find a website so I could contact them to ask what pet foods are made at their facility.
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