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Old February 28th, 2007, 05:27 PM
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Kibble and Raw

As you know, we feed Barkley raw and just this past week we have started to give him run of the house. He's still a puppy and up until now he has been confined to the living room with us. He has had run of the house for a whole week now but just a few minutes ago I discovered him at the cat's food bowl licking his chops. He ate all her kibble! Is this going to cause a problem because he eats raw?
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Old February 28th, 2007, 06:34 PM
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No. Lots of people feed both. Although its not recomended to feed together. It may cause more of a problem just becaue its kitty food. Just watch him. He may get the runs, or nothing at all. Just try to make sure he doesnt get into it any more.
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Old March 1st, 2007, 08:18 AM
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Thanks Scott. I couldn't believe he even got to the kibble because we had moved it from our cat's usual spot to a more secluded spot in the kitchen, under the kitchen table and we even put the table chairs in front of it so that there was only a little room for the cat to get to it. Well, he decided to redecorate and moved all the chairs out of his way and was happily laying under the table munching away with a guilty look on his face as soon as I came into the room.
I can tell you that it was not a pretty sight at my house last night. We had to get up every two hours to let him out where he had EXPLOSIVE diarrhea. It was rushing out of him so fast that it sounded like he was peeing. I decided to fast him for 24 hours so I skipped his breakfast. Did I do the right thing? How long do you think this diarrhea will last? Does he need a vet's intervention or should I just let him work it out?
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Old March 1st, 2007, 08:45 AM
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i would stick with the 24-hour fast, you can give desalted chicken broth to sip on... and start food again slooowly, one simple protein source and easy on the bone. normally takes a day or two for poops to become normal again, first barkley needs to purge the poisons from his system (as you can see!).

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Old March 1st, 2007, 09:02 AM
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Thanks Techno.
I was quite freaked out when I saw that diarrhea last night! I mean, I've seen him have loose stools and regular diarrhea but this was something else It gives a new meaning to the term cannon-butt...it shot out of him with such force that he almost fell forward!
I wonder if he's having this reaction just because it's kibble or because it's kitty kibble? Either way, it's not pretty.
I don't know if it makes a difference or not, but the sequence of events were as follows: he ate his raw dinner at 5:00 p.m. and then ate approx 1/4 cup - 1/2 cup of Felidae kibble at 6:30 p.m. I though it might be a good thing that it happened in this order because the raw went down first and would consequently come out first as opposed to lingering in the gut if he ate the kibble first (we all know how long kibble takes to digest, right?)

We've now moved the cat's food up on top of the kitchen table and pretty much built a fort around it with a small opening for the cat to get to it. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to prevent this from happening again, aside from switching our cat to raw too? (which we have tried twice with no success unfortunately :sad: ) The poor cat is so confused because we keep moving her bowl and now she has an entire obstacle course to get through in order to get to it.
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Old March 1st, 2007, 09:17 AM
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well if either of my dogs gets into kibble (and 1/2 cup will do it), it's cannon-butt city for 2 days! like a hose connected to their rear-ends, now you know what i mean! and if the colon is so irritated by constant poops you'll even see some bright red blood in there. so i have to be very careful when we visit places... "no kibble and no cheap grocery-store treats"!!
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Yeah, you just have to keep a good eye on him. I moved our cats dishes down to the basement. They have a cat door to go down. Its really my only option with him.
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Old March 1st, 2007, 09:51 AM
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Should I be giving him some slippery elm or anything to help with the diarrhea?
Techno, you said that your furkids sometimes get bright red blood in the diarrhea...if this happens to Barkley, should I get him to the vet or is this something I shouldn't freak out about?
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Old March 1st, 2007, 09:55 AM
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I would just do the fast. Maybe feed some boiled hamburger after the fast.

Bright red is usually a sign of an irritation. Dark red blood is a whole other ball game and would suggest seeing the Vet.
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Will do...thanks Scott
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thanks scott, you beat me to it!
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Please please please give Maggie the steak! Its not too big for her little mouth!

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