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Old June 30th, 2006, 03:48 PM
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Shamrock,I feel the same,I would NEVER under any circumstances mutilate my cats or any other cats.
The threat of Vinnie being de-clawed,was actually why I kept him with me,we did not really want 3 cats.
A doctor(friend of my old vet)was interested in him,but needed him declawed and there was absolutely no way,that was ever going to happen.
Our government does not seem at all concerned about our animals and it does not look good on Canada,it seems anything goes,be it puppy-mills,pet-shops or mutilation of both dogs and cats.
Heck,you can even shoot 60 dogs without repercussions,how important would mutilating cats be to them??
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Old June 30th, 2006, 04:23 PM
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as i have said before , my cats are de-clawed , my reasons were not because they scratch couchs or anything like that, i would NEVER declaw a cat for reasons like that , my reason is for my dogs safty , the shelter i work at doesnt TNR , so my ferals are cats i have saved from euthinazia who have only bonded to me and wont bond to other people. it was either them get euthanized , or me take them and have them declawed because it takes a while for the cat to trust that the dog wont hurt it. i am not for declawing unless its a life or death situation , mine couldn't be rehomed so it was my only option other then euthanasia or having my dogs faces torn appart in the introduction.
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Old October 29th, 2006, 09:29 PM
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Totally against Declawing

When I got my cats Cougar and Alex I was 7 years old and my mother made me get them declawed in the front. Once they came out of the anesthesia Cougar repeatedly hit her bandaged paws against walls and table legs until she got the bandages off and Alex seemed fine. Not long after the surgery, Alex had tape stuck to her left paw and when getting it off I noticed that her second digit was not in its correct place but she walked and acted just fine. Years later I have learned that when the Vet declawed Alex he had broken her toe! It is now healed in an odd position but luckily it has not dragged her down. I can safely say that my 6 month old kitten Orion will never be declawed!

If you are thinking of declawing please consider buying claw clippers instead, mine were 5 dollars and have a lifetime warranty.
Also a great new invention is SoftClaws, plastic caps that fit over your cats claws and they can scratch all they want without knowing the difference!

It is very easy to clip a cats claws since a lot of cats have clear nails and you can see the blood vessels in the nail that way you don't accidentally clip too short.

I have to clip my kittens claws about once every two weeks and my adult cats claws about once a month. Your vetrinarian can also clip their claws on your visits most of the time for free. And most dog groomers can clip your cat's claws for a very small fee.

What I have found is that having a small 5 dollar scratching board in each room of my house keeps my cats from scratching on other desirable objects. If you are having trouble with scratching then I suggest buying a scratching board or post and placing it near the object which your cat normally scratches on. Let the cat smell it and if they don't know what to do with it (like my cats) run your own fingernails on the board (they may look at you funny) and they should understand. If not, then a little bit of catnip (whole catnip if possible) should help. Over a small amount of time (usually a week) move the scratching board or post further away from the previous object of scratching desire and into a more permanant place.
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Old October 30th, 2006, 12:40 AM
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I have a feral rescue cat and a dog, and my cat is NOT de-clawed.

It's a horrible, cruel, barbaric practice. I especially can't imagine offering it with the spay/neuter! What the heck is the logic there? I've had many cats in my life, and only one ever scratched furniture (and she was the one my family had when I was a baby, I don't know what her issues were). Why the heck would I mutilate all my cats on the off chance that I don't want to solve the problem of scratching - like buy a scratching post?

My feral kitties (litter mates) had never seen a scratching post before we brought them home and they caught on in, oh, minutes with the use of catnip. And as for the problem of him scratching the dog - well heck, it takes only a couple of minutes every few weeks to trim Bo's claws back. And we gave him a safe room so the dog can't get at him (babygate).

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Old October 30th, 2006, 06:00 AM
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I have never owned a cat so I am totally clueless about living with one. I do understand that they can do damage to the house and furniture. With a puppy when they are in the destructive stage we crate them so that they are safe and so is the house. As they age they are gradually given some freedom and once they are old enough are free in the house. With cats, do they scratch their whole lives or is this a kitten stage? Can all cats be trained not to scratch furniture?
The reason why I am asking is because my son is thinking of getting a kitten and he lives in my house.
I have a question and it is only a question, not a statement. It was mentioned that some would rather give up their cats and rehome them rather than have them declawed. Honestly with so many cats in rescue and in shelters the chances of a cat being rehomed is slim to none especially if it is a cat that destroys furniture. Would it not be better to declaw than to give it up to a shelter if a person was not able to train the cat and it was destroying the furniture? Again, this is just a question because I have never had a cat and always thought the practice of declawing was a bit barbaric.
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Old October 30th, 2006, 11:20 AM
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coppperbelle; I know a cat is not a dog but you can still train them. If the cat decides to destroy furniture,people can buy scratching post and everytime the cat does it elsewhere,you take him and put him in front of the scratching post. Might not work for all cats tough....
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Old October 30th, 2006, 12:18 PM
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Yeah, it's like a bad dog- sometimes all it needs is the right home, with somebody experienced enough to get the unwanted behaviors to stop.

Once you see a declawed cat depend on its nails that aren't there (even though they only had the claws for a couple of months and never really used them before they lost them), you realize that it is so instinctual for them to have claws, for so many different reasons, that it really does become mutilation. It's kind of like a person who has lost his sight turning to look when he hears a noise.

And while people declaw for behavioral issues, they tend to end up with more, as cats tend to start biting after being declawed.
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Old October 30th, 2006, 03:04 PM
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I dont have a cat, but I am definitely against declawing I feel sick to my stomach just talking about it.
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Old October 30th, 2006, 03:14 PM
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I am against declawing, and always have felt it was wrong, however until i started to visit this forum i didnt realize what a barbaric procedure this was.Its a great topic to bing up again! Keep the education going!
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 07:54 AM
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I took in a stray who'd been declawed (not by me) and when she gets uncomfortable (like if my kitties are too close), she compensates by BITING. Luckily I haven't taken anyone to the vet for an infected wound yet, but it's a shame someone took away her first line of defense. She goes through the motion of clawing by "clawing" at the edge of cardboard boxes or my cardboard cat scratchers . . . either because she wants my cats to THINK she has claws or because she likes the motion. She's also very, very defensive. Of course, cats often are in new situations, but I think it's partly because my kitty boys have claws and she doesn't.

Edit: They do scratch all their lives, Copperbelle. They do it to shed loose claw sheaths and to mark their territory. (They have scent glands on their paws.) My boys were a breeze to train, I just bought disposable cardboard scratchers, which they loved. Then whenever one tried to scratch a doorframe or something, I would scold, take them over to the scratcher, set them on it, and praise them. Putting catnip on it also helps. The cardboard scratchers are great because you can afford to put one in every room . . . The closer the scratching post is when the cat gets the urge, the more likely it'll be used.

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Old November 3rd, 2006, 09:11 AM
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LM1313,my vet once had a beautiful orange young cat up for adoption,he was desperatly trying to get a toy outside of his cage.
Of course he could not get it,he had been declawed,touching his little mutilated paws made me cry:sad:
Obviously some other problems must have occured,since the owner had him declawed and still gave him up.
Canada like so many other countries should definetly outlaw this horrific procedure,but then again,animals don't have much of a voice here:sad:
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 11:34 AM
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I am against declawing. Like LM1313, my declawed cat compensates by biting. My other cat has all her claws and only will bite under extreme provocation. btw, I did not have my cat declawed, she was like that when I adopted her. Declawing has not stopped her from being destructive either. Maybe she is overcompensating, but she loves ripping up papers with her teeth, destroying my blinds, and even pulls at furniture w/ what is left of her toes. She has also torn apart some of the cabinets in my kitchen, among other things, and is a very destructive cat and aggressive too. I have a dog and he has been scratched by the one w/ claws and bitten by the one w/o claws, but little damage was done. Mostly, they get along with him now. The only cat I have ever had who did damage to furniture with her claws did not have any scratching posts available to her (this one I had growing up and didn't really know about stuff like that back then). Probably there are a few cats who will still scratch up furniture even with appropriate outlets, but I think they are not a very high percentage of cats.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 01:13 PM
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Chico, that's so sad. My stray kitty actually compensates very well when she plays . . . She grabs a toy with both paws and FLINGS it into the air. I can't believe the height she gets out of a toy mousie! They practically hit the ceiling!

I'm not sure if my boys know that she doesn't have claws or not, they can be rather dense. She does box their ears once in a while, and they back off like gentlemen (or cowards . . . but I prefer to think of them as gentlemen. )

I'd like to add that I've never had problems with my clawed cats scratching me, at least not since kittenhood (when they loved to claw everything, LOL!) Even if I'm trying to do something unpleasant like force medicine down their throats or clip their nails, they don't scratch, they only wiggle.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 02:43 PM
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My cat w/ claws doesn't scratch me either, unless she's kneading in my hair, and then, it is more out of love... :love: And then, I remember it is time to clip her nails!! My declawed cat is quite amusing to watch climb the cat tree. I bought it back when I thought she had claws (I swear I saw them on her at the Humane Society... must've been the back ones) and for awhile felt bad because she couldnt' climb to the top. But she eventually learned to pull herself up like a little monkey. Having no claws in front hasn't seemed to affected her ability to do anything except defend herself with them. She is an indoor cat, so hopefully she will never have to. I just feel bad for the pain she must have endured, poor girl.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 09:36 PM
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Well everything has already been said and I am totally against it.
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I am astounded this topic is still here. I cringe at hearing of anyone who would do something so barbaric and horrid as to declaw a cat!!! And yes, cats can learn not to use their claws in a harmful way. If ppl worry about their furniture, then don't have pets. Furniture can be relaced - pets are living breating wonderfing creatures who give unconditional love. We should never seek to repay that love with a painful procedure that will scar them - physically and psychologically for life!!!

I so loathe the declawers of the world and I try not to be judgemental but in my book, they are on par with child abusers - it is much the same thing actually. Grabted, some are errantly talked into it by some vets but we all have to take responsibility for our actions. Especially when it involves smaller and more vulnerable beings than oursevelves
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New Question!!

I believe that this subject rises towards a new question...If nature knows what it does and how are animals made… and cats with claws are a hassle to you...then are you sure that a cat is the pet that nature intended for you?
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I believe that this subject rises towards a new question...If nature knows what it does and how are animals made… and cats with claws are a hassle to you...then are you sure that a cat is the pet that nature intended for you?
Your comment goes against your vote FOR declawing. Are you for or against it?
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it was my only option other then euthanasia or having my dogs faces torn appart in the introduction.
Well, no, your other option was to introduce your dog and cat properly....meow. There are 4 people who voted for this barbaric practice. I'd be interested to hear their views. FYI, I just had my couch reupholstered in leather (as I heard on this forum that leather is the best material, etc.) The upholstery delivery man wasn't out of the driveway, before my cat Fluffy made her mark on the arm of the couch. I wasn't happy, but declawing never entered into my mind....
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Old January 30th, 2007, 04:29 PM
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Inisfad,It was probaly me who suggested leather.
We've had our leather couches now for a while(about 8 yrs) and unlike cloth-couches,they do not shred to the wood,but I have to admit I have a few scratches,not a big deal though,can easily be disguised with a leather colour.
The scratches occured from my 3 cats chasing each other running all over the furniture,I have never seen the attempt to use the leather-couches as scratchingposts.
Still,they are just couches,I would never dream of mutilating my cats!
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I dont know how anyone could ever under any circumstance consider this,i dont know who posted the pictures of it here but you should take a look,there is NOTHING my kitten could destroy ,even my feet at this point,that would ever make me consider doing it.Even though she will not stop clawing our couch even with cat scratcher and carpet condo,as far as i see it,it is our own fault for not buying soemthing to cover the couch areas that she claws,she will scratch her cardboard scratcher but really loves the couch,there is no stopping her,so that is our fault for not covering it..NO way ever never ever,i would like one person to give me ONE good reason to have this done?? There are none........
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Old January 30th, 2007, 05:05 PM
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I am totally against declawing. If a declawed cat had to defend itself - how would it? Some say declawed cats are indoor cats only - fine - what happens - and we all know that life just happens - if a declawed cat got outdoors? I like the comment about not de-toothing because the dog chewed on furniture - same with cats! Their claws are part of who they are and its up to us, as cat owners, to find a solution if we don't happen to like what they choose to claw on. Provide alternatives and show them what you want.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 05:31 PM
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Really are there any more questions as why NOT to declaw.I think this is one of the most disturbing pictures ever......
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Old January 30th, 2007, 05:36 PM
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I saw that Prin said she hated this picture and i am also sure this is not how it is done everywhere,but i also believe as the picture shows it has been done this way at some places, and really either way it is cruel and a sick thing to do.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 05:41 PM
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This subject i see has really gotten to me,because i dont understand anyone who says they love there pet but yet could do this to them.I will always do everything i can for my kitten to make sure she NEVER is harmed or hurt in anyway.So sad that we get pets whether it is a dog or cat,which with a dog the ones who clip ears and tails,now i DONT know how much pain this puts a dog through,but why is it neccasary at all??Besides for OUR own wants and looks for our dog.......
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Old January 30th, 2007, 05:52 PM
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I see there are like 5% for declawing,just curious what the reasoning for voting yes are!!!!! Ok i am totally disturbed by even thinking of doing that do an animal.......
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I see there are like 5% for declawing,just curious what the reasoning for voting yes are!!!!! Ok i am totally disturbed by even thinking of doing that do an animal.......
I'm curious too.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 06:23 PM
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I shudder when i even think about roxy ever being in pain,i cannot even imagine how sore there paws must be and their natural instinct when they go to the bathroom to use there paws to cover it up how that must feel,even if it is newspaper they use after that mutilation.......
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