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Old January 27th, 2006, 12:37 PM
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Ok, the heaters in. I let it sit for about an hour or so inside the tank before I plugged it in. So now the question..how do i know its on? lol is it safe to reach in and touch it? I can see zapping myself lol. The stealth doesnt have a light that i can see...

Nevermind. The temp has gone up a bit so i guess its working! Just wish it had a light so you can tell. The frog sure likes it! lol Hes hiding as best he can under it.

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Old January 27th, 2006, 02:47 PM
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Im actually very surprised that it doesnt have a light.
Ive never encountered a heater without a light before.
Both of my Visitherm heaters have lights.

You can reach in and touch it, it wont zap you,
just be careful they can get quite hot to the touch.

Keep a close eye on it, and if you see it go up to much,
turn it down one click.
Only adjust up or down one click at a time, and wait for a couple hours in between to see what temp it gets to.
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Old January 27th, 2006, 04:45 PM
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Thanks! will do! I'll try and get a picture of it tonight.
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Old January 27th, 2006, 06:01 PM
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Ok, snapped a few shots off.

Heres my tank. For the rest i'll just throw up the folder. The pics are a pretty good size so 56k beware

Heres the Folder http://www.scottsite.ca/images/Fishtank/

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Old January 27th, 2006, 06:36 PM
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Scott the tank looks good so far! The frog is so cute.

Are you going to add more for foliage and decoration? I'd recommend a medium-small chunk of driftwood, use some cotton thread to tie the moss to it and get some java fern and anubias, tie them to the driftwood or a good sized rock (safe for freshwater, no limestone!). Instant aqua-scape! It even looks like you could add a couple more whiteclouds. They don't get very big, and if you add more plants you can push the stocking level with the whiteclouds. Vals may also do well in the tank for a different type of greenery, they're long and grass like. I also like water onion and find it to be hardier than vals, and there's a dwarf variety.
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Old January 27th, 2006, 07:06 PM
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Thanks. I think i will add more plants. Maybe some java fern. As for more fish, i'll stick with what I have so far. but ya never know.
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Old January 27th, 2006, 10:53 PM
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Yep I would add some plants. If you see your betta is hiding behind the heater. Thats cuz they like to have a cave and plants to hide in.
Java fern is a nice cheap, easy to grow low light plant that looks nice.
Looks great though!
Nice snail and super looking white clouds.
I have 9 clouds myself, they are great fish.
If you had a school, you would see them flare and show off to each other.
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Old January 28th, 2006, 04:32 AM
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Thanks for the kind words! I'll look at getting the java fern this week if i can. Hmm, maybe i'll try a few more white clouds. Would 3-4 more be too many?

As for the drift wood, I can get alot on our shore. Ive read you can boil it to make it safe and if boiled long enough, will sink. I wanted to get a few shells of the shore as well. Can i just do the same with those. Boil them to make them safe?

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Old January 28th, 2006, 07:13 PM
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I think if you add some more plants, like Java Fern,
Wisteria is nice and low light, so are Anubias Plants, and
Cryptocornes, then you could definetly go with 4 white clouds.
Plants will increase your stocking level as they help clean
the water.
White Clouds are great little fish. They can live through
almost anything, and will live for about 2-4 years. (4 being most common)

If the shells you were thinking of are real seashells - i would avoid them.
They will release calcium into the water and harden your water
as much as 100gh in a week. This could bring your ph up to as much as
8 as well. great if you were keeping shelldwelling dwarf cichlids, but not
so good for clouds and betta.

For driftwood, boiling it is a definite. Also, you may want to buy one
that is attached to a peice of slate.
Some woods will float indefinetly - like hemlock, while others will
sink after several months. I always bind mine to slate and bury the slate under the gravel.

Also - if you wanna give you fish a great treat now and then that the snail and frog will love too, you can get frozen bloodworms.
1 package would last you for like forever. Or you can get freeze dried ones.
Tubifex worms are also enjoyed by all, but come freezed dried so may be a better choice for at work. I just squeeze em out under the water till they
come apart and sink. Great for frogs.
They also make sinking pellets for frogs, newts and salamanders that would be great for your frog too.
They are very meaty so im sure your betta would love them too.

All this small tank talk is making me want to set my 1g bowl up for
a betta ! or maybe a nano planted shrimp tank!

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Old January 28th, 2006, 09:14 PM
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Went to the fish store today. Got a Java Fern and 1 minnow. Also got the driftwood attached to the slate. The guy first said 4 more minnows. He said 6 is a good number being schooling fish, but after I old him the size and what else I had he said he would only recomend 1 more, or 3 total.

Anyhoo, i'll add everything tomorrow. The java Fern just gets tied to the driftwood ya say? Not planted in the stone? Do i need to prep the wood/stone at all? Other then a good rinse?

Oh and Ive been using the Frog pellets. He does really like em. I had other pellets for bottom feeders but I find he and the betta like these more. Its funny cause no matter what i put in, freeze dried blood worms for the betta, flakes for the minnows, pellets for the fish, the betta eats em all lol

Thanks for the info on the sheels. they where sea shells. Maybe i'll get a few from the pet store. just feels odd to pay $$ for what i have in my back yard lol. But whats best for the fish is what counts.

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Old January 28th, 2006, 11:32 PM
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With java fern, I have had luck growing it in the gravel,
but it does significantly better attached to wood.
Clear fishing line works well, and after several months it
will grow onto the wood itself and then you can
remove the fishing line.
Fill your sink up with hot water and give the wood a good soak and
a scrub with a rough sponge or bristle brush.
Then it should be good to go!
3 minnows should be a good number.
If you have a female amongst them you should end up
seeing them spawn, though the frog and betta will end
up eating the eggs. Fun to watch though, my clouds usually
spawn every water change.
Its a caviar bonanza for the other fish, and super fun to watch.
White Clouds have to be one of my favorite fish.
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Old January 29th, 2006, 07:53 AM
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Thanks!

haha, well I guess my eyes are bigger then my tank so to say lol. The slate/driftwood peice was much to large to fit in my tank. I ended up taking a hammer and breaking the rock, then taking a saw and cutting the driftwood lol. I did as ya said, oaked it and gave it a good scubbing. Tied the java fern onto the wood so that the roots rested in the rock. Looks really good! And the way I broke the rock it leaves a nice crawl space for the frog. The minnow looks happy with his two new buds. Any way to tell if ones a female? i may get 1 more next time Im at the store...they are neat arent they.

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Old January 30th, 2006, 04:05 AM
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Hi Scott,
glad you are happy with your driftwood setup!
Sounds great - cant wait to see a pic!

White Clouds are very neat little fish. As they grow,
if you notice one (or more) with a very plump looking
belly on it, that will be a female. Plus, as they age, males
will become much more colorful. Both genders will display to
each other, but particularly the males more often.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 02:37 PM
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I must say, quite the difference!

Mind you i dont see much of the frog anymore lol
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Looking nice! I can see you're on your way to becoming a fish-o-holic - LOL!

Hate to be a nag, but if I were you, I would put brown/dark, natural coloured rocks in the bottom. White rocks make the fish nervous.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 04:51 PM
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Looking nice! I can see you're on your way to becoming a fish-o-holic - LOL!

Hate to be a nag, but if I were you, I would put brown/dark, natural coloured rocks in the bottom. White rocks make the fish nervous.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 05:04 PM
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Lookin really good Scott!!!
I agree with natural stones myself - i find the white ones
get dirty so fast. But I still like it! Very nice and bright!
Your betta is gorgeous Scott!
Im sure the frog is super happy.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 05:20 PM
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Lookin really good Scott!!!
I agree with natural stones myself - i find the white ones
get dirty so fast. But I still like it! Very nice and bright!
Your betta is gorgeous Scott!
Im sure the frog is super happy.
Thanks. Since I started feeding him bloodworms, and moved him to the new tank, i find his color is brighter, and hes more active. I think I have 1, maybe two female white clouds. one for sure. shes got a fat gut lol. The other is a male im pretty sure. I think it looks good. thanks again all!
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Okay. How many White Clouds do you have? If only two, I would get 3 more.

Here's how this fish thing works, speaking from personal experience only of course:

I got a 10 gal tank and overstocked it,as we all do. Not big enough. Fish died.

Got a 15...but so many fish to choose from and so little room!

Got a 25..that held me for awhile, but then I had to get a 33..etc.

Could have saved myself a BUNCH of money by going for the big one right away.

Be warned.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 05:40 PM
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Okay. How many White Clouds do you have? If only two, I would get 3 more.

Here's how this fish thing works, speaking from personal experience only of course:

I got a 10 gal tank and overstocked it,as we all do. Not big enough. Fish died.

Got a 15...but so many fish to choose from and so little room!

Got a 25..that held me for awhile, but then I had to get a 33..etc.

Could have saved myself a BUNCH of money by going for the big one right away.

Be warned.
hehe. well Im hoping this will tied me over for a lil while. lol

I have three white clouds. the guy at the store didnt think I should add anymore with my size tank. You guys disagree?
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3 is okay, better than 2.

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the guy at the store didnt think I should add anymore with my size tank
Two thumbs up for him!
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Old February 1st, 2006, 11:23 PM
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The tank's looking good Scott. The java fern and the moss will start to fill out nicely and give the tank a nice broken in look. Softer edges, a tank that looks lived in.

I have to say I would go for a more natural gravel as well. GeoSystems has a nice line of natural gravel that would really complement the DW and the plants and set-off the fish as well. It is available in most pet stores like SuperPet, Petland and local fish stores may be carrying it as well. In your small tank it wouldn't take much work to change the gravel if you wished to do it. I will be doing this in the spring in my 25 gallon tank as I like the look much more than the red and black I currently have.

The betta looks so happy in his new digs. I really feel sorry for the ones kept in such small little tanks now after moving mine into a 10g, it's heated, has filtration, plants, tank mates, what more could a betta want?
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