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Dog ran into van nose first
Hi: Can anyone tell me if a dog can hurt something within the snout if he ran full tilt into a van. I took him to the vet immediately because he hit hard. They x-rayed him and nothing was broke there was no fluid in his lungs and other than him being sore for a few day's they said he was a very lucky dog. Blue is 6 years old and is rotti/lab. He has been breathing faster than normal and he is louder. Could something had happened to his nose. Would I need to maybe consider a 3D x-ray or is this for bleeding from the nose x-ray. He ran into the van yesterday friday july 4. Would there maybe be swelling and maybe it will go down and the breathing go back to normal. He finally started to eat today. He is moving around by himself. He just makes funny breathing noises and breathes faster than normal. I'm very worried about him as he is the baby of the family. Thanking you all in advance.
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Oh dear...how on earth did he manage that? My dog can be horribly clumsy too. It can be really scary, so I feel for you! I'm assuming you mean the van wasn't moving though??? Fortunate for that!
It sounds like the vet did a thorough exam and with the X-ray I wouldn't think you have anything to worry about. Your thinking that he is swollen sounds more than reasonable and his nasal passages are probably constricted from that, making it hard to breathe. I'm sure we'd find it hard to breath and eat if we got smacked really hard in the nose too. I'm sure it will go down soon and he'll be back to himself. and that Blue feels better soon!
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Whatever was he doing? Silly dog, I hope he's not a car chaser.
Be watchful to make sure there is no bleeding from the nose, especially if he sneezes there is always the possibility of small blood vessels bursting since they are likely swollen. If you notice any blood from his nose take him in right away. If the sounds he is making change and sound worse or the breathing rate doesn't calm back to normal within the next few days it would be a good idea to take him back in for another check. for Blue
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Hi: Yes the van was stopped and he was running down hill and I guess tried to cut across thinking that he could do it. He did not make it and hit the corner it looked like nose first and then the rest of him came forward. He is a fast runner maybe going easily 20km or more. this is why I'm so concerned. Today he is moving better not as sore. He is not himself though. He won't eat his food anymore. We are talking about a dog who love's food and don't get me wrong I was told 1 1/2 weeks ago on his yearly check up that he was pudgy so I know he needs to loose some weight but this is not the way I wanted to go. I do not want to just ignore his eating problem just incase it's serious. I have to either give him soft food or his snacks. So I know he can chew. He pant's more than normal a small pant kinda like he is finding it hard to get air. This is why I was wondering what is in his nose/snout area. He is still breathing the same. It's more loud when he is awake for some reason. I will wait until tuesday to see if it lessen's over time. That would be the beginning of the fourth day. If his nose is swollen then it should subside by then you'd think. Oh yes his nose is not bleeding but what I did notice is that it was drippin clear liquid a bit. I realize that I have seen this before in my older dog so I'm crossing my fingers. Thanks for the replies.
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Ouch! Poor boy!
Certainly, if he doesn't regain his appetite very quickly, another vet visit is in order. Do you think he could have cracked a tooth?
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bluebear Ouch! that musta hurt something awful! silly dog
If Blue still is not eating without encouragement, the nose is still dripping the clear fluid & the breathing is not clear & sounding unobstructed I would take him in for another exam, maybe another xray - different angle perhaps, he could've fractured his nose that might show on another angle . Did they take top view as well as side view xrays? Hazelrunpack is right there is also the possibility of one or more cracked teeth - would be a good idea to have clear dental xrays showing the teeth & jaw bones Did the vet xray Blue's neck & spine? I wonder if there may be some neurological damage? for Bear, keep us posted on how he's doing
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Dog ran into van
I was thinking that perhaps a tooth had been broken and that is why he isn't eating. I think another vet visit is in order if he is not back to himself today.
Many years ago my uncle who lived across the street had a Greyhound named Lou. We had a Standard Poodle named Daisy and the two dogs loved to play together. Once day Lou was running after Daisy and he hit the cement wall of our home at full speed. Unfortunately he died immediately. I guess he was going so fast that he couldn't stop.
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Blue and Bear
Hello everyone: Just an update on the boy's. I will start with blue who is doing very well. Oh boy it's been a lot of work keeping track of two sick dogs. I took blue back in to the vet and 800.00 dollars later they came back with no broken bones and only soft tissue damage and believe it or not it's in his left hind leg. They x-rayed his full head, spine, hip's, and knees. The following tuesday after the friday incident he started to show signs of a leg injury. It was one thing after another. Needless to say he is eating very well "appetite back big time". His breathing is normal and other than his leg hurting after a small walk he seem's fine. However the vet never told me what muscle or tissue was injured. I'm sure they have names for these things. I'm tired of vet's not giving all the information to client's. They collect your money and that's it. The dog suffers. That's how I feel about blue and bear. I realize I'm anal when it comes to the boy's but I feel I have to be as they are there for me and vice versa.
Bear was doing good. He was on the antibiotics for 4 weeks. That's all the vet recommended until 8 day's later it came back. It has been very difficult to get him to keep the pill's down this time and I called the vet inregards to how much food is required for this type of medicine but as usual they did not call back. So I took matters into my own hands and figured it out myself. He is keeping the pills down now and he is slowly getting better this time and he will be on them for 8 weeks this time. Also I was told this time that an x-ray of his head would be needed to confirm the infection is no longer there. I feel I should have been told this the first time and bear would not have to suffer at his age "12". Being older it takes longer and I feel a vet should know this and give the client the option on x-ray's. I was never told about x-rays only that if it did not go away there is surgery and it's invasive. This time the Vet said they can send us to Vancouver for a MRI or CT Scan. That's it. Some work ethics become a pet peeve of mine. If I could put myself in his place I would so he would not have to suffer. I'm worried about him. Could anyone tell me how this surgery works. Do they cut open his head or do they go through the ear and are dog's deaf after the fact or do they make it etc..... I know nothing about this as bear was never sick until his stomach surgery in October last year. As a human our doctors for example: ear,nose and throat doctor. Are dog's ear, nose and throat connect like ours. If so then I feel the surgery in October caused this infection as the doctor accidently put the solution that was to go in his stomach for x-rays in his lungs and until it came out of his nose the vet did not know what he was doing. The vet apologized but that does not make things better. What did bear do to deserve that. I'm so sad right know I worry. How do you know if a dog is suffering, when do you know when it's that time. Do you put the dog through an invasive surgery at his age. Will he make it. What does a vet mean by invasive in there talk. I feel invasive is not a good thing. To me it would mean he may live or die from the surgery. Thanks for everyone's advice. Greatly appreciated.
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x-rays
Hello: I just wanted to ask if anyone who has had x-ray's on there dog. For example: Blue's x-ray's. They showed them to me and I questioned an area that I thought did not look right. The technician told me that he was just not straight. What the (@$&#&# does that mean. If you pay for x-ray's should they not be correct. I'm starting to feel the vet's are in it for the money and not compassion. Unfortuneately there are only 2 vet's where I live and I'm on the second one.
The first vet could not see bear when he was first sick as he was booked for surgery all day. This is why I took him to the other vet. Plus my husband does not want to use the vet that hurt bear. We use to think older vet's in the retirement age had more experience and we use to have good results but for some reason something goes wrong down the road and then before you know it they retire and your dog is never the same again. It has happened twice with bear. First neutering. I hope they do not pick dog's up by there legs to put them on the table like I have seen on t.v. as not all dogs can have this happen to them with no consequences from it. After he was neutered he never had a normal bowel movement since, we had to carry bear out as he could not use his back legs. Then the doctor retired a couple of years later if that. I now feed bear pumpkin to help, it works very well, the new young vet mentioned it to me. Then the second vet put stuff in the wrong place last year to him, I'm keeping track as to when he will retire as he is in his 70's I'm sure and very healthy just his eyes are bad at least they seem bad when he looks at you without his glasses. It's unfortuneate because this vet is very knowledgeable.
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Cracked Tooth
After going over the replies again I say. The vet NEVER mentioned a cracked tooth or jaw or neurological words to me. What is happening with the vet industry. Unbelievable. I have alway's protected my babies from other big dog's playing etc.. to avoid injury as bear was injured as a pup playing with a big dog, I learned early that dog's are very suspectible to injury from playing with bigger dogs. I now realize that I also have to protect them from vet's as a human I realize we are far from perfect but I feel it's getting a bit out of control lately. Things have gotten a bit better as far as advice as I mentioned that I have worked with medical staff for many years and felt that not all options are being given to me. This is when I found out about the MRI CT scan and x-ray's. I should not have had to do that as I felt terrible letting them know that. I do not like to intimidate in any way shape or form.
Is it our right to stay with our dog if they are getting x-ray's. I know people are aloud to be with there loved ones. I would like to be there for bear when they x-ray his head and all as he is a special needs dog. I have went into the back as like I said I'm very anal now after what has happened but I'm not sure if I have the right to do this. Are they just allowing me to out of compassion? The other vet called him spirited go figure I would be to if someone put stuff in my lungs and it came out of my nose and it should have gone into my stomach instead. I just want to scream when I mention or think of it. Thanks again for listening and giving me advice.
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Bluebear - I think your best bet is to change vets again, If you want some names I can recommend a couple in the Vancouver/Burnaby/North Vancouver areas.
As for the surgery for Bear's ear infections - not too sure about that I would assume they go in through the ear. And yes animals ears, nose & throat are connected much like ours, perhaps not exactly the same but connected. For going in the back to be with your animal during xrays, no it is not normal that they allow that. Generally the clinics do not want owners there because 1) radiation from the xray machine - they are liable if you are adversely affected by the radiation 2) in most cases the animal is more stressed & fights it more while the owner is present cuz they want to go to their owner 3) there are far too many sensitive items in the back of a clinic for them to allow everyone back there. It does happen that the xray sometimes will come out "not straight" or the view is off a bit, some animals are too fidgety but they are usually sedated for xrays, if there are medical issues that the vet doesn't want to sedate just to take an xray then they will risk an imperfect xray Now for ultrasounds in specialty clinics, you are allowed with the animal. I've never had a CT or a MRI done on an animal but I would think they would be anaesthetized for those since you must be very very still for the imaging to come out properly. for the boys
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Growler: Thanks for the information. The mainland is a bit far and expensive to get there. If bear does require surgery I will call vets on the island and find out who has done the surgery before and more than once and the consequences from it. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for the antibiotics and x-ray's. Thanks again, greatly appreciated.
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bluebear I didn't realize you're on the island We have a member JanM I think she's mid way up Vanc Isl (?) You can always pm her for a recommendation if you're in that area
for Bear & Blue too of course
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Growler: Great thanks.
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