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I appreciate the input and I'll be fine just gotta play the waiting game to get into school. I WILL become a vet tech no matter the cost or the pay. Everyday I come to work is a good day. My calling is to work with animals and there are lots of ways that I can put my knowledge to use. Petland made me better, think what you may of the company, but I will always be grateful for every day I worked there.
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Well that is good then. Everything in life works that way for a reason. Your mission may lead you to a place where you will be actually saving animals rather than helping an industry destroy them.
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Department head grouping? As in department manager? A friend of mine is a department manager at one of the Petland stores here and he was able to tell me the wages there as I was interested in getting a part-time job - until he told me the wages! Why would someone go to university for 2 years to make $15/hr? That is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure which vet offices you were looking at wages. Even UPS and FedEx pay $14/hr to sort mail, and $16/hr to drive the little delivery truck around. They have good benefit packages too. I have always believed in short term sacrifices for long term gains. Sometimes you have to do something you don't like to get to the something you do like. EDIT: Wow, I just did a quick job search for Vet Tech in the area and there were two jobs avertising $15-19/hr depending on experience. Good God, that's awful. Not worth going to university for that.
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Do these reputable breeders give the dogs away for free? Is there enough of these breeders to undercut the prices of puppy mills? Would eliminating the demand for these dogs get rid of puppy mills? In reality when you purchase a purebred dog from a reputable breeder you are still supporting the market for puppy mills existence. |
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I also find it a bit insulting that you insinuate that those who purchase a purebred from a reputable breeder somehow links back to support for puppy mills - that couldn't be further from the truth and I fail to see your connection there. |
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Why does a puppy mill exist I ask you, because the pets stores need them? No, because people want purebred dogs that are marketed to them by society? Yes. So if we now get rid of the pet store where is this consumer going to go. Well hopefully to a reputable breeder, but more likely to the place that was supplying Pet Land in the first place. So what is the root of the problem? peoples desires to shop for pets perhaps? If we change peoples minds and make them realize they do not need to spend thousands of dollars to get a designer dog maybe they wont. Until we as a pet loving culture decide that it is wrong to market dogs this way, Nothing will ever change. Explain to me how I am wrong here? |
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I also think that to be able to breed an animal, you must have a license to do so, and that the requirements will be very strict in regards to health testing, vetting etc. But again, that's probably not ever going to happen. Until then, we will just have to take any small advances we can get, such as the one Petland is offering.
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You're absolutely wrong.
Puppy Mills don't exist because of purebreds or the desire of people to own one. They exist because of uneducated and impulse driven consumers who want a dog and they want it now. They don't care where it comes from, and they know next to nothing about responsible breeding practices and think buying a puppy from the pet store or from the kijiji add or from the nice old lady down the street who breeds her little sweet shih tzu because she thinks he's pretty is perfectly acceptable. Puppy Mills breed and sell plenty of designer mutts and there is quite the demand for them now. Just think of all the puggles and pooshis and poopoos and multipoos and what ever other ridiculous name you can come up with are out there. Look at the Kijiji ads and tell me if you think the purebred dogs outnumber the designer crosses? If it's not 50/50 I would say the crosses actually outnumber the purebreds. It makes little difference if you're breeding mutts or purebreds, if you're doing it in order to make money, or simply just because, you're only adding to the problem. There are people who legitimately breed cross dogs for work and sport and they put just as much effort into this with health testing and any other relevant tests as any of the high quality pure bred breeders. That is a world of difference from breeding a mixed dog without any health tests and because the mix will have a cute name. |
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I think both Nigel pezington and Choochi have valid points. I think the underlying cause is a mix of the two.
And just to add another view to this news, the people who buy from Pet Stores may also buy their animals there just for the simple fact that the dog seems "legit." It's not just the breds of the animals, but the brand of the store itself that gets attached to the dog. After all, some people attach trust in certain stores and brands themselves. Some people shop at Bloomingdale's, others shop at Walmart. In reality, there isn't a true difference; however, some people take it to the extreme. [I have never really understood the purebred and mutt distinctions. Meaning, I don't know why people get hyped up over certain breeds. To me, a dog is a wet tongue and a loyal friend in need of someone to love and care for them. The breed shouldn't make a difference. Plus, I tend to love mixed breeds more. They're so unique.] But it does come back to the view of dogs (or cats) as status symbols and, in general, products, not companions/friends. I don't believe the money grubbers will ever change. A business is a business. Some people do it morally and others (the ones who bring in the big money usually) always prefer quantity over quality. You can see that in any business type. Clothes, food, furniture, appliances, etc. Some even make products that "break" just after the warranty ends or after a few years so that you have to come back for more. These people are smart. And they care about very little than their own pockets. Furthermore, some people may get the only exposure they get to animals at Pet Stores. Our shelter here doesn't get that much exposure (I think they just foster out and bring the animals out once a month, but that's just a theory, and I had to hunt for that info). And backyard breeders. BYB are really all I've known for cats, and my current dogs are also BY bred. I'm working to keep that from happening again, now that I realize the problem is bigger than I thought. I've looked at those puppies behind the glass. I also looked at the price. No way in hell I'd pay $500-600 for a puppy. And seeing that they come from puppy mills most often, that looks like a huge profit margin. Digston, sorry for the layoff. I feel for anyone losing their job. There are no jobs here outside of medical or oil field. I'm working toward the medical and praying things work out. I would like to have health insurance before I'm 30. >> (I'd kill for $15-16 an hour.) All in all, I think this news is good. There is always two sides to news, but I think the overall results will be positive. Last edited by Backwoodsgal; September 15th, 2011 at 10:03 AM. Reason: Silly mistakes |
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I think you are right when it comes to branding/trust. It's a matter of educating people. Until I joined this sight, I thought much differently than I do now. And I think that's something people need to remember... they weren't born with this knowledge, they learned it. And with time, others will as well. Hopefully with Petland making this move, other large chains will follow (afterall, it is the large chains that always make the national news, not the small mom and pop shops)
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I agree, that was a very good post. I thought I'd point out that even though it seems like Petland is making a killing on these dogs they really aren't. On average there is a loss on each puppy sale. Petland would make money if they didn't provide constant vet care, didn't provide their health guarantee, didn't pay me, and the list goes on. Take for instance a couple of older dogs that were surrendered to Petland (The elderly man was going into an old folks home and couldn't bring his dogs). Both dogs are 12 year old small mix breeds, siblings in fact. They both were suffering from extreme tooth decay and gum disease. I don't know about your SPCA/Animal rescue groups where you live, but here I can almost guarantee that given their age and the condition of their mouths these 2 dogs would have been euthanized. We gave them the vet care they needed. If you've ever looked into the cost of, or had a dental done on your animals you'll know its not exactly cheap, especially when there is need for a lot of extractions. With the cost of their medical care and the price they will be rehomed at Petland is losing a ton of money..... and to give these 2 dogs a 2nd chance at happiness its worth it
Look past all the bad and you'll see some good. |
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