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Old February 27th, 2012, 09:26 PM
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Question Fecal Issues: Possible underlying problems?

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Dog has been on a raw meaty bone/prey model diet with no serious issues since he was a couple months old. Had to leave him for three months with friends so he went back to kibble. Fast forward to a week ago.

Switch from kibble back to PMD. Completely did it wrong, forgot to fast and went to some elk ribrack I had in the freezer. It's recommended to fast for 1 day and then move to chicken with higher bone content. I fasted, then went to chicken leg 1/4's. He was having trouble controlling his bowels going #2 for the first couple days which is relatively normal due to different digestive enzymes needed to handle eating raw.

8 or so days later he has been eating elk ribrack the last 3-4 days which contained small amts. of organ meat. Probably a bit rich in diet (in relation to how long he's been on PMD) but very healthy meat. His stool is firming up yet some come out covered partially in mucous. I noticed one poop come out4 days ago or so and just the 1/4 tip was covered in mucous.

Is this possibly whipworm?

Additional information: He is kept during the day in a pen that has strawbales and some loose straw in it. He goes #2 in the loose straw and the temps have been thawing and freezing regularly. The poop is removed and areas of straw splayed with a bleach solution. The bales of hay will be removed and the area will be left to dry out and decontaminated before they are replaces by this weekend.

I'm concerned that he might have a parasite, possibly whipworm or some other worm. I doubt this is colitis. It could be just from the switch in diets and going to rich too fast in relation to meat/organ rations.

He acts healthy & normal and has good energy.

I have a fecal sample inside tupperware in my fridge that's a day old. I'm starting him on GSE grapefruit seed extract (1 drop/10lbs body wait 3 times a day via eyedropper starting tomorrow.

Any thoughts? Thanks for taking the time to read this. NOTE: He's up to date on his shots but is NOT on anything for worms. I am also poor but want the best for my pup.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 01:21 AM
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I know exactly what you are talking about. Three of my dogs have that all the time when they switch back to raw. Some have it coating their entire stool and some have it coating only part. (We don't have whipworm in Japan, so I know it isn't that.)

Wait another week and see if it continues after that. If it lasts, it could be from worms or parasites, but if it clears up on its own, I wouldn't worry. I've always assumed it's the intestines clearing themselves of gunk, like people report having happen after they go on those 1-week colonic cleanses in Thailand.

Keep us posted!
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Old February 28th, 2012, 01:40 AM
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I have a fecal sample inside tupperware in my fridge that's a day old.
Just wanted to mention you can go ahead & toss that out. If you were planning to take a fecal sample to the vet for testing it needs to be very fresh, preferably within the hour, to be effective at finding anything.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 11:12 AM
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Red face update!

Thanks for the replies...

It seems that is was due to my negligence of switching to too rich meat too fast. I perservered as he loved eating it and kept a close eye on sh!t

It seemed things were firming up real nice but there was a touch of blood now & again as of a couple days ago. Now, everything seems to be on the up & up.

His poos are turning to a white/beige and looking nice & firm usuasally. I splurged & got him a whole Red Hill Farms* chicken and let him gorge. He'll eat the rest today.

Tejas ate a beaver this last week & a half..

http://preymodelraw.com/getting-started-quick-start/
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