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Old July 5th, 2009, 10:59 AM
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Stinky breath? Farts? Vitamin E?

Well, I talked my boyfriend into changing his dogs' food. Little "PeeWee" the 3 lb Chihuahua used to eat one of the Nutro's small bites. He now eats Evo Innova small bites chicken, with some yogurt, Tripett, and Salmon oil. However, PeeWee has developed stinky breath since the change about 6 weeks ago. Why would he be getting stinky breath from this food?

Also, how much is normal for a dog to fart? I mean, some amount of farting must be normal, no? Both dogs have really similar foods, and both have some farting. My dog eats 50/50 Evo Innova large bites chicken, and California Naturals L&R. I found the dogs got worse farts when fed the beef Tripett, so now they don't get the beef one, and the farts are better. I used to feed larger amounts of Tripett three times a week, and I changed to smaller amounts once a day, and that seems to have helped farts too. Although I know Evo Innova is a bit notorious for gassiness (is that a word??).

Even though I think the dogs' diets are about as good as they can get (without going raw), and the dogs are doing quite well on it, I have considered switching to Orijen to see if that gives them less farts, and better breath. Also a bonus that it's manufactured nearly locally, so that's great too. Any comments?

I'm open to any comments/suggestions regarding the dogs' diets. That being said though, we're not open to adding any raw ingredients to the dogs' diets.

One more question, the dogs get Plato brand wild salmon oil. It has Rosemary extract in it, but it doesn't list how much, and doesn't list the subsequent amount of vitamin e. Is there enough vitamin e in there to balance with the omega 3 or should I be adding a bit more?

10 yo Myka (85 lb Pit Bull / Boxer cross?)
Morning: 1/2 cup Evo Innova chicken, 1/2 cup California Naturals L&R, 4 mL Plato Wild Salmon Oil.
Afternoon: Same as above, add 1/4 cup plain yogurt, 1/4 cup Tripett.

4 yo Pee Wee (3lb Chihuahua)
Morning: a little less than 1/3 cup Evo Innova chicken small bites, 0.5 mL Plato Wild Salmon Oil.
Evening: Same as above, add 1 tsp yogurt, 1 tsp Tripett.
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Old July 5th, 2009, 11:07 AM
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I can't help you in the Vitamin E department, but I do know that EVO tends to be a richer food and I have heard of many many dogs being very gassy on it. Some dogs get gassy on Orijen, but it seems to be less common.

I feed Orijen and would definately recommend it. We have no breath issues in our house and although Chase farts a fair bit, I find they don't smell. The only time the dogs get stinky is if people give them poor quality treats that they're not supposed to have.

The local production of Orijen is definately another bonus
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Old July 5th, 2009, 11:23 AM
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Maybe it's the boyfriend with the gas blaming the dog? joking

Yea some food is bad for making them gassy.
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Old July 5th, 2009, 11:32 AM
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Too funny Sandra!!

Thanks for the help ladies! The dogs only get Evo treats, and every couple days they get the beef penis chewies that they are allowed to chew on for half an hour each.
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Old July 5th, 2009, 12:25 PM
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Not sure I should ask what these are "beef penis chewies"
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Old July 5th, 2009, 12:28 PM
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Not sure I should ask what these are "beef penis chewies"
Google: "Bully sticks" - they're also called pizzles. Very healthy dog chews, since they don't snap and break off into sharp pieces like rawhide does.
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Old July 5th, 2009, 12:41 PM
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Pizzle is an old English word for penis, derived from Low German pesel or Flemish Dutch pezel, diminutive of pees 'sinew'.[1] The word is used today to signify the penis of an animal.[2]

Pizzles are almost exclusively used/produced today as chewing treats for dogs,[2] and are prepared by cleaning, stretching, twisting and then drying at a high heat. The result is a very hard, 80–100 centimetres (30–40 in) long brown stick, which is then sawed into pieces appropriate for the size of the dog.
Mmmmm yummy!!!!!
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Pizzles are great treats, and they help keep the teeth clean. I would suggest that you not tell everyone in your family what they really are, if you expect them to actually pick up the treat that is. LOL

On the food thing, you might try cutting back on the amount of kibble. Because the dog absorbs so much more of the nutrients rather than just passing them through the body, they don't need as much. Of the premium kibble brands I've tried, every single one of the feeding guide charts were overstated IMO. I think the feeding chart says that my 120lb newfie girl should be getting about 5 cups a day - she barely gets 2 cups a day. There were a few brands I tried that did create a gas problem though.

On the salmon oil, the rosemary extract should be all the vitamin e that is needed.
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