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Old August 29th, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Best low protein options

Hi, We have 5 cats...11 year old (male), 2 ...6 year olds (females), one 5 year old (male) and a 4 year old (male). We just discovered throught the magic of blood tests that the oldest boy is having some kidney difficulties. No crystals or infections. We have tried various vet recommended foods but he does not seem to like them. Meal feeding is also not going well as most the the other 4 are nibblers. Any suggestions?
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Old August 29th, 2012, 01:18 PM
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Hi Edenca, do you have a copy of the lab results? Was a urinalysis done? If so, can you post the results with the lab reference ranges?

As for low protein food, it's actually a myth propagated by the pet food industry (and subsequently the vets that they brainwash) that cats with renal insufficiency benefit from eating it. They don't. What I would do (and have done, since my 19 yr old cat has had CKD for over 2 yrs) is feed a good quality WET food, with half an eye on the phosphorus levels. Ditch the kibble if you are feeding any. If your cats are kibble addicts, you may have to go about this slowly and methodically but it is the most important thing you can do for the health of ALL your kitties. Some tips here: http://catinfo.org/docs/Tips%20for%2...%201-14-11.pdf

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Old August 29th, 2012, 01:49 PM
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I second SCM's advice. Your kitty needs to be as healthy as it can be and that means getting it's vitamins and minerals in a form that they can use it. That means real meat/bone/organs.

I have a cat who is in later stages of renal failure and she is doing very well on a quality canned/raw diet with extra water added so she gets adequate fluids. I also keep an eye on phosphorus levels (chicken/turkey is the lowest).
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A timely video by Dr. Karen Becker on the topic of CKD in cats:
http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites...e-in-cats.aspx
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A timely video by Dr. Karen Becker on the topic of CKD in cats:
http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites...e-in-cats.aspx
Excellent article, SCM
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Hi Edenca, do you have a copy of the lab results? Was a urinalysis done? If so, can you post the results with the lab reference ranges?

As for low protein food, it's actually a myth propagated by the pet food industry (and subsequently the vets that they brainwash) that cats with renal insufficiency benefit from eating it. They don't. What I would do (and have done, since my 19 yr old cat has had CKD for over 2 yrs) is feed a good quality WET food, with half an eye on the phosphorus levels. Ditch the kibble if you are feeding any. If your cats are kibble addicts, you may have to go about this slowly and methodically but it is the most important thing you can do for the health of ALL your kitties. Some tips here: http://catinfo.org/docs/Tips%20for%2...%201-14-11.pdf

Good luck!

Sugarcatmom, Yes, a urinalysis was done.
Specific Gravity....1.030 and the Reference range is.....1.015 - 1.060

Ph......6.0 RR is.....5.5 -7.0

Neg. for protien, glucose, ketotone, bilirubin, casts, crystals, bacteria.

RBC.......high at 11-20 RR...0-3
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Sugarcatmom, Yes, a urinalysis was done.
Specific Gravity....1.030 and the Reference range is.....1.015 - 1.060

Ph......6.0 RR is.....5.5 -7.0

Neg. for protien, glucose, ketotone, bilirubin, casts, crystals, bacteria.

RBC.......high at 11-20 RR...0-3
With the exception of the RBC, your kitty's kidneys seem to be OK. Normally a cat in renal failure would have a very low Specific Gravity (indication kidneys are not concentrating) and some protien.
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