NOW dog food

[wdawson]

any thoughts on this food.
http://www.petcurean.com/index.php?page_id=160

[rainbow]

NOW! Grain Free

INGREDIENTS:

De-boned Turkey, Potato Flour, Pea, Apple, Whole Dried Egg, Pea Fibre, Tomato, Potato, Flaxseed, Canola Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E) , Natural Flavors, De-boned Salmon, De-boned Duck, Sun Dried Alfalfa, Coconut Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Lecithin, Sodium Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Fruit: ( pumpkin, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, raspberries, blackberries, papaya, pineapple), Vegetables: ( carrots, lentil beans, broccoli, spinach, alfalfa sprouts, garlic), cottage cheese, zeolite, Vitamins: ( vitamin A, vitamin E, Vitamin C, niacin: source of Vitamin B3 thiamine mononitrate: source of Vitamin B1, pyridoxine hydrochloride: source of Vitamin B6, Riboflavin : source of Vitamin B2, Vitamin K, beta-carotene, inositol: source of Vitamin B8, d-calcium panthothenate, vitamin D3, folic acid: (source of vitamin B9) biotin, source of vitamin B7 or H, vitamin B12) , Minerals: (zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite) , Prebiotics: (chicory root extract, mannanoligosaccharides), Probiotics: lactobacillus acidophilus, lactobacillus casei, enterococcus faecium, bifido bacterium thermophilum), Ascorbyl-Polyphosphate, Digestive Enzymes: ( dried trichoderma viride fermentation extract, dried aspergillus niger fermentation extract, dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract) , Kelp, Taurine, DL Methionine, L-lysine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Marigold Extract,L-Carnitine, Dried Rosemary.



I prefer the ingredients in their other grain-free formula better....

Go! Natural Grain Free

INGREDIENTS:

Chicken Meal, Chicken, Turkey, Turkey Meal, Potato, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols (vit. E), Herring Meal, Potatoes, Peas, Tomato Pomace, Natural Flavour, Salmon, Duck, Salmon Meal, Duck Meal, Salmon Oil, Whole Dried Egg, Flax Seed Oil, Brewer’s Yeast, Pea Fibre, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Taurine, Choline Chloride, Chicory Root Extract, Mannanoligosaccharides, Pumpkin, Apples, Carrots, Bananas, Blueberries, Cranberries, Lentil Beans, Broccoli, Spinach, Cottage Cheese, Alfalfa Sprouts, Protease, Lipase, Garlic, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Enterococcus Faecium, Bifido-bacterium Thermophilum, Vitamins (vit. E, vit. C, niacin, inositol, vit. A, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, vit. K, beta-carotene, vit. D3, folic acid, biotin, vit. B12), Minerals (zinc proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), Ascorbyl-polyphosphate, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Rosemary.

[wdawson]

but what about all the "meal" in the GO?and the chicken fat.

[rainbow]

The meal form is the best as it has all the water removed from it so therefore you are getting more meat protein in the kibble.

I have never heard anything bad about chicken fat.

[wdawson]

thanks rainbow,i asked about the NOW food because i got a 25lb bag free from the company.

[rainbow]

Good for you....by all means go for it. It is a good kibble and you can just use it to mix in with what you're feeding now if you don't want to switch. When they first came out with the original grain-free I got a free large bag of that from them. I decided that I liked Orijen better so just mixed in the Go Natural with it to make the bag last longer.

[rainbow]

Oh, btw, what don't you like about chicken fat?

[geisha]

Hey...How did you score a free big bag of Go! That stuff is $$$.
Congrats!

[wdawson]

Originally Posted by rainbow

Oh, btw, what don't you like about chicken fat?

fat in general....is it really ok,it is fat,and we as humans are cutting out our fat

[wdawson]

Originally Posted by geisha

Hey...How did you score a free big bag of Go! That stuff is $$$.
Congrats!

sure is $$$......$65......i got coupons for free sample 1lb bags.....then the store said no we won't honour those coupons.......i called the company and told them i will never use their products because of the retailers attitude....4 days later a coupon

[rainbow]

Originally Posted by wdawson

fat in general....is it really ok,it is fat,and we as humans are cutting out our fat

It is okay and also needed.....

Originally Posted by dogfoodproject.com

While fats are the main source of energy in a dog food, they also supply essential fatty acids, prevent dehydration and serve as carriers for fat soluble vitamins.

Canola oil listed in the ingredients for NOW is also a fat. Also make sure that the fat is "named" and not simply stated "poultry fat".

[geisha]

Hi there.
WDawson may I suggest contacting Michele @ Petcurean customer service and ask about the protein content and chicken vs chicken meal. She can fill you in. Thanks

[Love4himies]

I feed Sweet Pea Go Natural (grain free flavours), canned cat food as a change from Wellness canned. I give Jasper and Sweet Pea, the Now cat treats as they are the only treats that Jasper can eat (can't have any grains). Sweet Pea loves the canned and the treats and Jasper loves the treats. No problems with those two products.

[gypsy_girl]

I am going to e-mail Petcurean and ask them about the protein thing. I think from what I heard, that chicken fat is also rendered, same as the meal, so this food is render free.
When I get an answer I will post it (or if someone gets it before me they can post it)

[gypsy_girl]

The reply!

Fresh meat in pet food are more similar to raw based on how protein is determined on label.Here is an example of what I am speaking of.
In determining protein content on label this is how it is done:

If a food has 50% meat inclusion it could look like this

25% meat X 16% protein = 4% crude protein on label
25% meal X 63% protein = 15.75% crude protein on label

This would then equal 19.75% crude protein on label

There are many variations on this depending on whether more meal or more meat is used.

Even if a person used only 100% chicken meat in the diet, because the value of that particular protein is only 16-18% this is the amount of protein you would be getting, on label in the guaranteed analysis. As well, chicken meal ALWAYS contains bone, and that is not a usable protein source for the dog. The level of bone can vary, depending on what is purchased (we purchase the low ash for our "meal" foods) , higher bone equals less overall meat, so in some cases chicken meal DOES NOT have more meat. As well, this then contributes to the amount of calcium, phosphorus and ash on label. As well, in terms of the amount of protein a dog gets in grams per day on a raw diet, in the typical grain frees they are over double.

Food for thought I guess, have to get out the calculator again!