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Puppy Trouble
my just poop out a milk like substance!!! is that bad??????? i'm hand rearing puppies the my dog doesn't want to feed them.
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Have you contacted your breeder/mentor ......what does she/he have to say?
If you are a backyard breeder then I would be taking the puppies to your vet asap and getting the mom spayed right away as well. |
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Well said these pups should see a vet asap.
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I am sure the OP will NOT be back for any kind of follow-up and no further chance to educate. Unless, of course, she is the type to also post her opinion of you, no holds barred, and she will then be slammed for being rude.
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Why not try to educate now in case this person decides to navigate? It's never too late. Can you help this OP out with some information? I am certain that you have valuable information.
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But jumping right on someone and telling them that if they are a backyard breeder they should run to the vet's office and have their bitch spayed, sure isn't very friendly nor very helpful. I understand that the members of this forum are very much a pro spay/neuter bunch - IMHO, some of the members here come off like screaming lunatics any time someone mentions a problem with a puppy. Not only does it keep people from coming back but it keeps away some members who DO have valueable advice to offer.
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So everyone agrees that the OP should see a vet. Great advice. |
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No. I don't think that Rainbow's post came off like a screaming lunatic. But go back and read every thread on the forum about puppy issues. Once someone throws out the "spay your bitch" card, it is down hill from there and usually pretty quickly. Any chance to educate the OP is gone and it usually ends up being a knock down, drag out slug fest.
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Agreed Lavenderott. But (of course there is a but) with all the education, with all the news articles and coverage, looking at all the statitical data from shelters and pounds that publish how many killed every year (and those are the ones that wish to be transparent) - one would wonder WHY spaying and neutering is not done. I think that this is the frustration among those that are pro spay and neuter.
I have personally brought many unwanted pets over the bridge. Far more than I wish to even publish while working at a shelter years ago. I burnt out completely. It was such a difficult thing to do as I had to carry the burdeon of irresponsible people on my shoulders just as you have done...and many others here. It's something that remains for you forever. It never goes away. Because there are so many threads dealing with this topic, the frustration continues to rise as it is evident that education in all different forms does not seem to be enough. This year there is more abandoned animals than any other. I am absolutely not the person to ask as to what to do if a puppy is excreting something so concerning. If someone knows, then by all means pass on this education. There is no doubt that these puppies need to be seen by a vet immediately. But if there is something to offer this OP then why not take the opportunity now as I am sure that they will view the responses. If this mother will not accept of feed her babies, then the best advice is infact to have her also seen by a vet and eventually spayed. She obviously in distress and needs to be helped. At times we all get alittle upset, but it's due to desperation I believe. I don't know about you but I actually feel the pain of those pups and the mom. One can only visualize what is happening here and there is a great need of professional intervention in order to save the mom and babies. |
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This may seem like a dumb question, but I'm curious if the dog you are referring to that won't 'feed the puppies' is actually the mom of these puppies you are bottlefeeding? If so, how old is she? Age of the mother is an important factor to consider when they refuse to feed puppies. Is this her first litter? Sometimes, first moms can be incredibly nervous and wary about their puppies.
Secondly, how many puppies were born? She may be refusing all the puppies, because she is overwhelmed. A healthy year old female may only be able to produce enough milk/energy for about 3 - 4 puppies, depending on breed. Regardless, PLEASE take your puppies (and if you have the Mother) to the vet. They all need to be seen to ensure health and safety and proper diet. What kind of milk are you trying to feed the puppies? Are you feeding them on a schedule? As far as the puppies stool, it should be light in color and not too hard - but certainly not watery.
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Bailey thank you for going back on topic..Lavender nothing personal but kindly take this convo to pm's please. As for the OP, please take the puppies to a vet along with the mother.
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Very small puppies can become dehydrated FAST - best to get to a vet right away. Good luck!
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thanks you guys! but the vet said that we had to put her down because that she had some birth defect with her stomach and we are getting the mother fixed. the other puppies are fine which good
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why is the male dog not fixed
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you know im so piss------------------, i work at the vet plus reg job. i have been going 24-7 this last month and see so much at the vets, if you have animals please spay and neautor your animals god no wonder i DO not like people brenda and the pins
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I find the newbies always get treated the worst because they have not accrued a large post count. But there are many of use who have wonderful things to contribute! Thanks for bringing this point up i don't think it is a bad thing to have a reminder from time to time to keep us grounded. Last edited by echoica; December 29th, 2009 at 08:17 PM. |
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Sad to hear that you feel this way, I have to say that I disagree with you, Newbies IMO are always welcomed to the forum with open arms......but when a poster posts regardless of being new or otherwise "it was an accident, I have a male dog" I too, bang my head wondering if I live on the same planet as this person.
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Very glad you fixed your female Fairymoon!!!! It was the right thing to do.
Are you planning to fix your male in the future? If this was the same dog that you were breeding to your female, I would encourage you to do this - his genes could've also been part of the problem regarding the sick puppies that were being born. You sound like you are the type of person that loves puppies and dogs; have you ever considered being a foster home for puppies, or a pregnant female dog? If you enjoy the birthing process and helping raise and socialize puppies, I highly reccomend this route. Unfortuantley there are just SO many unwanted dogs and pups out there right now, it's a very good idea to spay and neuter our animals in our home. But there are still a lot of dogs, pregnant & puppies, that need our help. Maybe this could be something you could look into?
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because my parents aren't into fixing animals. and we got both dogs at the same time when they were puppies
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Certainly does, I feel the same way.
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can we please go back on topic....
fairymoon it's unfortunate your parents feel the way they do..am i understanding this right, are your male and female siblings? As for the female not feeding the puppies, she can sense there is something wrong with them. |
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To the OP. Could you contact your vet (or rather could your parents) and ask for something of a better quality than milk you can buy at WM? It may give these precious puppies a better chance at survival.
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If the OP would have told us in the first post that they were a 17 year old living with their parents and the dogs belonged to the parents then the "welcome" may have been different. I don't know how many people take the time when they join to bother to read the rules of this forum. I did. In fact it was the one huge reason I decided to join Pets. It states that most people on the forum are very pro s/n. I knew without a doubt I had found a place I wanted to stick around. The people on this forum are my kind of people. They care very very deeply for the welfare of animals. A lot of them put their hearts and souls into looking after all the unwanted dogs and cats. Some of us spend every cent we make to do that. Get to know us while we are getting to know you.
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I think there is such a fine line that has to be treaded carefully when dealing with such a sensitive subject that everyone has a different (usually emotional) opinion on.
I am very, very pro spaying/neutering ; however I think in a situation like this, it is very important to focus on the most pressing matter: the health of those puppies. I agree it is important to educate individuals about the harsh reality of the millions of dogs/cats that are euthanized every year but it must be done in a tactful way. I have found in my own experiences working at a humane society, I have the best success educating people about this topic (and convincing them to s/n their pets!) when I present my argument calmly and not condemning people (which usually puts them on the defense and not willing to listen to your argument anyways!). But I also understand how some people feel... I have held dogs/cats in my arms while they were euthanized simply because of a "mistake" and were unable to find a home, it's hard not to want to scream at someone!! And yes, it is hard to believe that approaching 2010, there still are people who are poorly informed or not aware at all, about this terrible situation of the pet overpopulation. (Just a side note... I have always felt very welcomed on this forum!) Anyways back to the subject... fairymoon, have you been able to take your dog to the vet? How are the pups doing?
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