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Old March 23rd, 2005, 03:29 AM
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Exclamation bulldog seizures, sudden blindess, NO help from vets

We have an English bulldog, 4 years of age, always happy and running around. Until a few days back. He became weak, didn't eat much and he was having mild tremors. Since then the condition went from bad to catastrophic. (all inside 2-3 days) He has problems with getting up (rarely moves now), is as of now partially blind (stumbles against objects, there is some vision in one eye we believe), he his gasping air sometimes as if just finished a marathon. Some seizures and tremors and even some foaming at the the mouth at times. 30 sec seizures, right side of the face and right paw are fidgeting.
We have been to numerous doctors. He has had several blood tests (all ok), x-rays (looks ok), he has no temperature to rule out possible viruses. The doctors have been here in the morning, evening and night. Nobody has slept for 3 days.

The dog lives in the house, runs around in the garden and has regularly been given injections against viruses. A few years back he had problems with bladder stones, since then he only eats special dog food to prevent allergies. No red meat, candy or any other food. No other medical problems or traumas.

Please help us. We really feel that the time is running out.
Is there any vet who might point us in some direction? There must be an answer, at least a diagnose. We would be eternally thankful.
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 04:45 AM
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I am so sorry you are going through this with your beloved dog, I am not a vet but simply a well wisher, I hope you find the help you need asap, hopefully someone here can point you in the right direction, it must be so frustrating for you, it almost sounds as if he is having mini strokes but I really have no idea. Like I said I wish you well in your search for help for your pup :love:
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 05:40 AM
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 06:52 AM
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Did the vets wule out poison? Some toxic substances are 'cleared' by the body so fast, they are very hard to detect. Is there anything he could have gotten into without you knowing? Anti-freeze? Garden chemicals?

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Old March 23rd, 2005, 07:40 AM
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I'm so sorry to hear that. You say you have seen many vets. Have you seen a veterinary neurologist? I don't know where you are so I can't look for one for you. You can look on this website:
http://www.acvim.org/Kittleson/search.htm

Just enter N for Neurology (first line) and S for Small animal (second line). Then enter where you are.

These vets have an extra 3 years (I believe, or maybe 4) dealing only with neurological problems.

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Old March 23rd, 2005, 09:21 AM
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 09:25 AM
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I think it is a great idea to pursue the neurological website offered. Just a thought, and you may have absolutely no idea, but is it possible that the dog has suffered some sort of trauma to the head, such as a fall or a severe hit? I am sure your vet would have checked for signs of this, but it's worth looking into.
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 11:02 AM
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I have an english bulldog as well. I don't know if you knew this, but bulldogs are prone to vaccinosis. When was your last vaccination? Bulldogs can react severly to vaccines, and get chronic illnesses from them. Is he a white bulldog by chance? They are more prone to problems.

We were strongly advised either to not vaccinate our dog, or get special vaccinations for him. It is recommended to get all vaccinations separate (not together) and only to get killed vaccines, as the live ones can mutate. live vaccines are actually banned in some countries now.

You don't say where you live though. We researched getting a bulldog for more than 8 months before we got ours. He is a white bulldog. He has a lot of allergies, but is doing quite well. If I can be of assisstance, let me know. Bulldogs have special needs.
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 11:26 AM
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If you live in Ontario, I would suggest Guelph Small Animal Clinic. They have excellent neurologists on staff - and on call. I regret that I know this from too much experience. We went for our midnight emergency surgery after our vet called the night line. The clinic does operate regular business hours during the day with specialists on hand - but obviously a referral along with all of your pup's X-rays, health info etc. would be required. If you do not live in Ontario, hopefully there is a vet hospital near you.
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 04:33 PM
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You said in your post that he runs around in the garden... have you put done any slug bait in your garden?
Posion doesn't always show in the bloodwork. Unfortunately, this is something I know from loosing my beloved Hobo(black lab).
Please check out the ASPCA Animal Posion Control Centre. http://www.aspca.org/site/FrameSet?s...nts/M01947.htm
You can do some researching yourself, if there is any plants or other items listed on the webiste that the dog might have gotten into. Otherwise, there is a number that you can call, there is a $50 consultation fee.
Going to a nuerologist is a good idea as well... as the blindness and the foaming from the mouth might be caused by the seizures (those are common symptoms after seizures) soo there might be something nuerologgically wrong.
Please keep us update, you are in our thoughts
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 04:50 PM
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Siim..i am so hoping u find help for your beloved pet..keep looking and so much of the tips and help from the people here have so many possilbilities.
I will be wishing all good thought for u and your furbaby....Top
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Old March 23rd, 2006, 10:16 AM
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Please have a scan of his head -- brain tumors can cause this, and come on suddenly. Good luck!
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Old March 23rd, 2006, 10:21 AM
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fyi - this thread is from a year ago.
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Old March 23rd, 2006, 10:23 AM
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Guelph is the place they are incredible there. Please keep us posted I hope all goes well
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Old March 23rd, 2006, 09:45 PM
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Was your dog tested for diabetes? Everything you have described matches diabetes. If left untreated or undiagnosed, diabetes can eventually cause kidney disease, stroke and nerve damage which is probably why your dog's right paw is " fidgeting" and there are 30 second tremors on the right side . Fluctuations in the blood sugar level can cause hypoglycemia(low blood sugar) at some point which is a complication resulting from untreated diabetes. Hypoglycemia can, in turn, cause lethargy , tremors, disorientation, stupor, apparent blindness, a choking sensation with accompanying shortness of breath ( hyperventilation or what you called "gasping" ) , as well as provoked seizures(meaning when the cause is removed, i.e. blood glucose stabilized, the seizures disappear) and eventual coma and death. Even if your dog is not showing the usual sign of diabetes, such as increased drinking and urination, diabetes in the later stages, doesn't. If your dog is tested , and the test comes back negative for diabetes it does not mean that your dog does not have diabetes. More than one test is needed in order to form a " curve" . The same test given at the same time each day for approximately five days will provide that curve by which a more accurate reading can be taken. Please have your dog checked for diabetes, and soon. The interesting thing about diabetes is, once the pet has been stabilized through the use of insulin, the pancreas can be encouraged to start producing insulin once again. If your dog does have diabetes, and you want to consider this route, you would have to find a vet who is is knowledgeable about this and is able to provide the glandulars and other necessary supplements that will stimulate the pancreas to begin to repair itself.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 04:57 PM
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We have an English bulldog, 4 years of age, always happy and running around. Until a few days back. He became weak, didn't eat much and he was having mild tremors. Since then the condition went from bad to catastrophic. (all inside 2-3 days) He has problems with getting up (rarely moves now), is as of now partially blind (stumbles against objects, there is some vision in one eye we believe), he his gasping air sometimes as if just finished a marathon. Some seizures and tremors and even some foaming at the the mouth at times. 30 sec seizures, right side of the face and right paw are fidgeting.
We have been to numerous doctors. He has had several blood tests (all ok), x-rays (looks ok), he has no temperature to rule out possible viruses. The doctors have been here in the morning, evening and night. Nobody has slept for 3 days.

The dog lives in the house, runs around in the garden and has regularly been given injections against viruses. A few years back he had problems with bladder stones, since then he only eats special dog food to prevent allergies. No red meat, candy or any other food. No other medical problems or traumas.

Please help us. We really feel that the time is running out.
Is there any vet who might point us in some direction? There must be an answer, at least a diagnose. We would be eternally thankful.
I was wondering if you have had any luck with your issues, we have an English Bulldog with the exact same problems, our next vet appt. is tomorrow!
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 05:02 PM
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I was wondering if you have had any luck with your issues, we have an English Bulldog with the exact same problems, our next vet appt. is tomorrow!
I dont think this member has been back... Plus the post is from 2005..

*I wish I could help but best of luck tomorrow
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Old October 8th, 2008, 11:16 AM
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My wife and I just had the same problems with our Senior Bulldog (8 years old). Took him to the Vet this week after we noticed he was acting dfferently, had blood work and x-rays done. Showed no problems. He still had energy in him to play ball and tugg, but then the past 3 days his health deteriorated to the point that he could barely stand up. This morning he passed away. From playful to deceased in 4 days.

We came to the internet looking for answers to what could be wrong with him and this is the first page that popped up. He was exibiting the exact same symptoms that the original poster described.(minus the blindness)

It would be great if the 2 posters came back with an update on how things turned out with their dog, though I suspect I know why they haven't been back.

If you're Bullie is showing these same signs and the Vets haven't been able to turn up an answer.....I hate to say it, but prepare for worst. It happens so quickly.


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