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K,maybe I worded it wrong....I did not say it was ok for them to be outside 24/7.....The working dogs are outside most of the day.That I already know.My sister has one.And I also stated that she also comes in at night.It was others who stated that their working dogs are the ones who love to stay out all night....It's the others that are talking about "working" farm dogs.Sorry if this isn't making sense..Been popping Tylenol 3's for my head..
As for giving the right breed and type,I don't know any Siberian Husky owners,including my sisters that live outdoors.And these are a breed known for living outdoors.And my sister has 3 of them.Yes their coat is thick,but not that much.And there have been some huskies that they use for the sled team in Alaska that have froze to death.
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RK: Unfortunately, I don't know when she first showed signs of being pregnant. I have only had her for a week or so, and before that, I had not seen her for a while at my friend's place. RK: She has had at least several litters of kittens before, but I will be having her spayed after these kittens are born. Surely you are not going to start blaming her for things above and beyond her control...then again...I wouldn't doubt it |
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Well... lets not even go to dogs freezing to death, if a dog it to live outside they need to be given proper shelter according to climate, which I consider to be an insulated or heated structure depending on climate (for the record horse barns are usually pretty warm in winter because of the large animals body heat - in reference to barn cats). My statement about proper breed and type, is not meant as "all dogs with heavy coats should live out" I believe any dog can live in, but many can also be comfortable, happy, loved and healthy living out. I have a rotti and had a rotti cross.... my rott needs to be made to go outside for the 2 seconds it takes her to pee in cold weather (least she bust from holding it in ) , while the other dog never wanted to come in... he had to though as I didn't have enough room or fencing to leave him out - but if I had the room and let him chose.. he probably would rarely been in - yet he was a happy dog. My personal belief is that any animal is happiest with a choice for inside or out - pet dorr or the like... but I realize that some owners can't offer that (I can't right now) - some are inside most or all of the time, while others are outside most or all of the time... I think (and have experienced) that animals can be happy in all of those situations. ( To clarify - not to say each animal can flourish is all those situations, rather there are happy animals found in each situation - god I hope that makes sense.) |
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So just because my ideas are different than yours then I'm not welcome here? Wow... must be lots of one sided conversations here if you cahse off anyone with a different or new idea. Trolls were here long before I was! |
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I think what I'm really trying to say is,I would rather see the "family"dog be just that.Part of the family.Snuggled in at night.Sleeping with the family.Having them lick your face in the morning to get you up.Like mine do..Or have them hog the bed like my guys do...LOL..And we are talking about 2 100lb+ GSD's...I guess that's my defination of a family dog.
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I'm not saying you're wrong... just that I'm offended that you think I am for thinking there are other ways to love and care for an animal. Also wanted to add... that not all pet owners consider these animals as their children and therefore offer them the same as they would a child, and although they love and care for them they treat them as pets.. with "no on the furniture" or "not allowed upstairs, or even in the house" rules... I don't think that makes these people bad owners... nor do I think they should find "parents" for their animals so they can be happier (I don't think they would be). |
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No way MB was the troll comment directed to you...it was directed to some people who pop in for one nasty post and then bugger off.
I think there are different kinds of ways to love your animals as long as the animal is well cared for and loved. Well cared for means you take the time to play/excercise ......good food and on a daily basis.....when shots or emergencies happen make sure you can take them to the vet. Spay /neuture and be responsible about breeding. I also completely agree with knowing what your getting so your not in for a surprize and decide to dump them later. I 100% believe when you take them in you take them in for life. Look the animals don't have a voice...I have seen such abuse that it upsets when someone just hits their dog once. Or like what happens quite frequently in our area the litter is dumped in the dumpsters. Let's just all give them the very best life they all deserve. |
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Everyone has the option to stay or go, myself or any other member.
If someone is upset about how I or anyone else feels about how a pet should be taken care of thats too bad. I have the right to have my opinion, as it's not just based on thought and theory but from the heart. I'm actually not sure why any of you are upset that we love our pets enough to have them around us as part of the family. I"m not saying you do not love your pets, but it seems you love them in a different way then we do. So long to those of you who have come and are going! Hello and welcome to those of you that stay. (((hugs))) to Amaruq you know I lubs ya!!
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Hey Mona_b, actually the sled dogs that froze to death was because they were brought inside and out. Warmed up and then cold, not climatized. Just thought you should know.
As for the new ones posting WELCOME!!!! It is indeed refreshing having intelligent conversations instead of bullying opinions around here!! One thing I've noticed that when people have a different opinion here they always write don't get mad at me. I am sick of it! But I have handled bullies before and will continue. Although its gonna get a lot worse now because if they think their right, well so do I. Amaruq, I agree about the trolls. Maybe you should leave for awhile. As for me I'm off all weekend ( finally ) and will gladly continue this conversation. TTYL Chany |
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I don't see any bullying here, I see differences of opinion! There is a difference.
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In all honesty Luba its because your little posse does the bullying. I'm sorry I'm at work and I have to log off now but I'll be back tonight to continue this if anyone wants to!!
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Oh god, pleeeeeeeeease let this thread die. I'm not religious, but I'm thinking about finding out if the Dalai Lama is still around town to see if he can exorcise the bad karma out of this thread.
There was lots of pack mentality on this thread. Lots of unneccesary (spelling) bashing. Lots of assumptions. Way, way too much "you people..." and "all of you....." and "you guys.....". I kept reading this crap and thinking 'what the hell did I do?'. I think I'm just going to curl up on the floor and suck on my dogs earlobes, while I twitch for a while. |
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I agree with Bob. How can a thread go from sucking ear lobes to people who suck?
There was too much time wasted here, and negative energy that could be spent in better ways. What exactly has been accomplished? Does everyone feel better now? Smooches, I love all you crazy animal lovers. I am wishing for more ear lobe & age posts and the like. I appreciate opinions, we all have them, but this got carried away. *note, never put on lip gloss and then kiss your black dog*
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The linguistics in this thread are amusing me but I've had my time here and this thread can continue w/o me!
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Chany didn't know I offended you...I seem to be in crap no matter what I do.
Tell you what..instead of me leaving how about you just don't read my posts ok. |
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Read, don't read..no one should leave. Everyone has opinions.
I can get riled too..I also work alot so I have little time for input. This thread was one of those "wastin' daylight" threads. (((group hug))) Hey, we don't have to live with each other! And I reallly mean it, never put on lip gloss and kiss your black dog....I found out after doing this and went to talk to my neighbor, he pointed out my hairy lips. *Shoot me now please!*
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Oh well,I thought this was long over...as far as bullying,did you read ANY of the posts from Rk's "posse" The language used and the wording was far worse than any I read from "our posse".
But this is it now,I hope Amaruq don't let anything upset you that was said here,most of us know you are a wonderful,caring person and that you know more of what goes on on many farms than most of us. I only wish everyone out there would give all our animals the love and care they deserve,no more chained up lonely dogs,no more starving,cold miserable cats....or wolves,bears,foxes etc,etc... Bob,you mentioned the Dalai Lhama,the buddists have the right idea,show compassion for every living thing.No,I am not religous but if I were I would be a buddist
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ROTFLMFAO@Karin..........
So now your nick name can be Hairy Lips......LOL.... Now to get back to the original post.....Casper has a foot fetish.He loves licking toes and licking your leg......
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Okay first of all Bill if you don't like it then don't read the thread. Whats the problem here with it? Too many valid points have been made for you guys to respond to?
Luba, See ya!! Amaruq, you didn't offend me intentionally but yes I was offended. Actually I have been fairly often on here but just wouldn't say anything because you seemed to have your group and there was no arguing with it. So why try? All of you are great people but you are extremely judgemental!! I could be just as judgemental as the rest of you and even wonder why some of you have pets. But why do that? Why is it that the intention of making people feel bad about their situations. I know some people are idiotic but some people are ignorant. Who's worse? I've found an idiot you can educate, an ignorant person? well they're worse. Chico, as far as the language are you kidding me? Have you read any of the earlier posts. Some people are so similar to a dictator that its frightening. Karin, I agree but this thread was because some people got tired of some holier than thou people getting on here and bullying others. But instantly that's wrong, why? Someone disagrees with the ones who've been here longer? I can become a senior contributor pretty damn quick if I wanted to. I'd have to stay on here for a lot of the day and reply to every little thread 2 or 3 times but bam I'd be a senior contributor but that doesn't mean what I've said was right or helpful in any way. Start reading back on some of the posts and I agree with the post get off you're high horses before you fall off!! |
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Oh good grief! Getting off of my high horse now, hairy lips and all.
This isn't the only place disagreements happen. Same mini wars happen on other boards, in real life and among familys. This thread should die. Too much hostility and it is breaking up what I thought was a very cool family. Why is it so hard to say enough already?
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Sorry Karin wasn't directing the high horse to you that was mentioned way earlier before you or I were on here.I'm sorry but in my family everyone has a valid point and yes maybe it should die but unless attitudes around here don't start changing you're going to see more of it. Sorry!
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Where in the heck did I offend you...If I did don't read my posts plain and simple. Your getting on my last nerve with this |
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I thought so...lmao! It was also my silly attempt of highjacking this thread to a happier place...since I cannot do it alone..hint ..hint..hint..I will not partake anymore.
I am off to read about better things..i.e. abcesses, hurling chow and penis afflictions....and How old Bob really is. Play nice kiddies.
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OMG not your last nerve . Get your medication refilled.
Pretty easy to be a bitch isn't it? But oh no have I offended you?? |
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And that comment about a dog being shot on a farm, yes we have the ability to do that to someone else's dog. But does it mean we will? No! I can shoot, but even if I tried, I don't think I'd hit anything! No that I would try in the first place! So the law applies to me, so what?! It doesn't mean I'm going to go shoot a neighbours dog because it goes walking across my field! |
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