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Old January 10th, 2016, 04:51 PM
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Running and pooping

Hello, I am totally new to this but am at my wits end. My poor sweet kitty Mavis has been very sick. It started with explosive diarrhea, out of nowhere. Followed by the development of a deep tissue abscess and severe anemia. The weekend after thanksgiving she was lethargic and unresponsive. By Tuesday that week I decided that the end was near and made an appointment. Needless to say after sobbing all day, she suddenly stood up and kissed me. My vet and I decided to continue nursing her back to health.

She has an obvious neurological deficit of which we can't figure the cause. The abscess finally cleared up after two weeks of treatments. The diarrhea continues to plague her. She is just three years old this month and is a tiny girl to begin with, now back to her 5 pounds. She is eating, drinking, peeing in the litter box but can't seem to make it with the poop.

She is currently being treated for a possible active case of toxoplasmosis. All her tests, every single one is within normal limits. Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? This has been financial taxing and is breaking my heart. We all love her dearly and want to see her recover.

Thank you so much.
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Old January 10th, 2016, 05:28 PM
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Have you tried pure pumpkin. It works both ways as a stool softener or it firms them up. It must be pure stuff not pie filling. I put the leftovers in an icecube tray so it doesnt go to waste. A little bit on their food for a couple of days should help.
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Old January 10th, 2016, 07:27 PM
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Has the anemia cleared up? Where was the abscess? What type of neurological deficit?

A cat-appropriate probiotic may be helpful, especially if the abscess was treated with antibiotics. Antibiotics can really do a number on the organisms found in the gut--anything you can do to get her intestinal organisms more balanced, should help.
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Old January 10th, 2016, 09:06 PM
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More info about Mavis

Thank you for the support. I have tried the pumpkin, she won't eat at all if I put it into her food. Since she was down to only 4 pounds, I gave up on that. Thank goodness, her appetite is back and she has gained a full pound. We have been at this since November 24th. She is currently taking a pro biotic along with a thirty day round of antibiotics for suspected active toxoplasmosis. The abscess was on her ribs just behind her front arm. She is a tiny girl, about the size of an average 7 month old kitten. The abscess was about 2inches in diameter, it was huge on her tiny body. The anemia has resolved. The neurological issue seems to be in her back end, she has difficulty walking straight and seems to be incontinent after an attempt to jump up onto high surfaces, bed, counters, and tables. She is unstable and wobbly even when sitting.
Thank you again.
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Old January 11th, 2016, 11:56 AM
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I don't have any experience with toxoplasmosis in cats, but from what I can see in an internet search, the symptoms could all be consistent with toxoplasmosis. Were they able to confirm toxoplasmosis with lab tests? How long has she been on the treatment? Is the vet concerned that there hasn't been more improvement?

Poor little munchkin! Does she seem in good spirits, at least?
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Old January 11th, 2016, 12:04 PM
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they were unable to confirm the toxoplasmosis, however, she does seem to be getting better. She has been on antibiotics for 12 days now. After everything, we have decided to just wait and see. She is a very difficult blood draw due to her size and previously was dehydrated. She is beginning to get back to herself, which is why I hate leaving her isolated due to the bowel incontence. I just can't continue with the messes, it is like she diarrhea does parkour. So now that you have finished laughing and viewing that image, you totally understand the dilemma. I want her to begin moving about more to, hopefully, help her gain control of her wobbliness. She needs the room to move about, but kitty parkour with diarrhea is YUCKY.
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Old January 12th, 2016, 02:25 AM
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besides the holistic vet idea, did you consider energy healing for the pain and the pooping?
a lot of times it takes the entire trouble away. google has lots of healers listed. try finding a certified pranic healer, willing to do pets!
still no go, ping back.
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Old January 12th, 2016, 10:13 AM
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Hello Mamaof3Bees:

Welcome to the forum.
I was wondering if you have ever tried Slippery Elm Bark for any of the bowel issues? I've used it in the past for diarhea and had good success with it. It might be something worth looking into.

I'm enclosing a web site for Little Big Cats that will describe the application and how to prepare.

What I found was buying bulk Slippery Elm seemed to make a better product than using capsules and do taste it before giving it to the cat to make sure that it meets Little Big Cat specs.

Couple of other things that I have some questions about. What type of food is the cat on? Has she been on antibiotics before for any reason and when was the last time it had vaccinations? In the past I've had problems with my cats with over prescriptions of antibiotics along with the vaccinations. Is the cat strictly an indoor cat, or does it go outdoors as well?

As Hazelrunpack mentioned - cats and antibiotics don't mix well due to their digestive systems - it's extremely high in healthy bacteria for digestion and antibiotics aren't selective. If it's bacteria, it kills it. If it's in the stomach, it can cause irritable bowel problems big time.

The month long prescription for antibiotics without having confirmed lab tests, diagnosis indicating that they are necessary, just seems to be a bit much, especially for such a small cat. The side effects are the major problem, according to my pharmacist.

http://www.littlebigcat.com/health/slippery-elm/
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Old November 26th, 2017, 06:48 AM
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Same symptons here and need opinions

My 6 year old female Medium hair cat part Maine Coon has over the years pooped outside the litter.
Symptons: She doesn't poop for several days and runs around the house with poop falling. After she hides and pants a bit. It happens every year and lasts for months.

What I've tried:
1. First couple of years on daily lactoluse
2. Changed for fibre response food (which worked for the first year)
3.Tried Lacteeze for cats
4. Tried human grade restoralax
5. Changed litter type to corn(bad), back to clay based
6. First year took x-rays but found nothing
7. Tried Cysperide to make her try and poop more frequently. She's still on that with no success

Results:
1. Poop is segmented, firm but not too hard
2. With Lactoluse, the poop gets watery and too loose
3. She still pees in the litter (alot of pee)

I'm sure this is Megacolon but the treatments are getting more ineffective each year.


I'm at wits end since it's getting expensive and she is still fairly young.

Anyone else has this experience?
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Old November 26th, 2017, 11:21 PM
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Welcome to the forum Tipsey.

Hope we can get some ideas for you.

What type of food is she on - dry or canned? Has she had any recent blood or urine work done? If so was there any issues?

When you were using the Restoralax, how much were you using per day? How heavy is she?

When you say she "runs around the house with poop falling", what exactly do you mean? Is it hanging from her anus, or is it like a diarhea, or is it hung up with hair in the digestive system?

Has she been seen by a vet in recent months, and is your vet just a standard vet or integrative?

Some answers to these questions might help the members to help you.

I'll see if I can come up with some ideas to look at.
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Old December 6th, 2017, 07:23 AM
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Slippery Elm powder helped my old girl and eliminated the need for Restorolax. After about a week on it her innards were recovered and she was able to resume her normal bathroom habits without help. I was surprised all to heck that she would eat the stuff, mixed in her canned food, but she did with no trouble at all.
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Old January 21st, 2018, 02:08 PM
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Wet food in morning, fibre response dry food throughout the day. The poop literally shoots out of here when she runs around. The Vet believes it's irritable bowel syndrome and she's had bloodworks which came back negative. She's had some luck pooping in the litter but fails to bury it. I brush her almost daily since she's medium hair and she weighs about 5.5 kg (not overweight) but she's a big cat (part maine coon)
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Old January 22nd, 2018, 10:58 AM
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We had our late Missy with the same problem that you are going through.

In regards to the litter box, what we found was Missy would accumulate a lot of gas, and with the diarhea when she passed gas sometimes it was forced out with a fluid drive of disentery which was not intended. And it ended up on the floor outside the litter box. She would pass gas in the bathroom where the litter box was, and you'd hear her down the hall in the living room.

When Missy had diarhea, she wouldn't cover it either. I think the reason was because she didn't want to get it on her paws. Cats are very clean animals and when this mishap occurs outside the box with the diarhea - what i had noticed - upset Missy and I would suspect it would be the same with your girl.

We found that we had to change the food and get away from kibble. That was pointed out to us by several vets. I would think that you are going to be in the same boat.

Is your vet integrative? If not, I would be thinking strongly of looking for a vet who is both conventional and alternative. The reason is the alternative vet will have more knowledge on species specific feeding. Mainly because they have stepped outside the box to learn rather than take the pet food industry's teaching.

Be very careful with vaccines - keep them to a bare minimum. I did away with them altogether. Something else that is dangerous is antibiotics. The side effects can raise havock with the digestive flora in the gut - weakening it and causing more problems.

Here are a couple of web sites for you to check out. The feline-nutrition one gives a break down of the gut floral and what's happening and some suggestions on feeding.

I suspect that you have done a lot of research. Hopefully this information is of some use.

https://feline-nutrition.org/health/...-and-treatment

This one is information from Dr.Lisa Pierson. I've followed her web site almost from the beginning. This article is on IBS, but there are other articles that are well worth the read.

Go to the top of the page and on the green side bar - down about 3 - is an article on prescription diets which is also worth a read and I've had vets tell me the same thing, just not in as many words.

http://catinfo.org/#Inflammatory_Bowel_Disease_(IBD)

Keep us posted.
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