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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:27 PM
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Puking Puppy

I have a 9 month old puppy named Toby and since he was about three months old he throws up about once a week to once a day, he stays active he eats fine, he doesnt show any signs of being sick. He used to do it only in the middle of the night so the vet told me to feed him later, that helped for about a month, still getting sick once every two weeks then, but now he is back up to once a day. I dont know whats wrong with him and he never acts sick, he just gets sick and then goes on his way. What does this mean?

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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:35 PM
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How many times a day are you feeding him ? What exactly is in the vomit ? What are you feeding him ?
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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:38 PM
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We feed him four times a day he a 70 pound dog and the vets never seem to concerned when I talk to them because he shows no other signs he only throws up bile, I have done everything the vets have recomended so I have been to vets just wondering if anyone else has any other options that they have heard of.

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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:46 PM
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No one said you were stupid,and i am no vet,but it is not normal to throw up....I would get another opinion.......
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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:47 PM
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No its just the last person said I was crazy for not taking himt o the vet, but hes been to several
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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:48 PM
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What are you feeding him?
And I agree, I think its time for a new vet.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:48 PM
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... I have done everything the vets have recomended so I have been to vets I am not stupid.
I really hope I just took your reply the wrong way, but it seems rather rude to me. Mummummum was asking you some questions in order to help you with your poor puppy. More information about what is happening is needed for any one to give you any good answers. No one is here to judge you, they just want to help you and your puppy.

If I am mistaken with your reply, I apologize. If you really do want answers to your initial question, please try to provide as many details as you can and I am certain you will get some really helpful responses.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:49 PM
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That was me but i deleted it,and yeah you need to find a vet thatn can tell you why this is happening,if you always threw up wouldnt you find out why?
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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:52 PM
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No one person came on here and said i was crazy for not taking him to the vet, but then he edited it. So thats where I got it from. I am not trying to be rude either, but lets not assume I am sitting around not doing anything, the vets say its not urgent because he has no other signs, I mentioned this in an earlier post. He gets fed Nutro. If they all say its not urgent to bring him what am I supposed to do he doesnt act or look sick
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What is the dog in question eating????? ( K, Nutro which kind of Nutro?)

And how much,
What time of day are you feeding, or do you feed twice a day?
Does your dog free feed?
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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:55 PM
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He has the maximum nutrients Nutro and he gets fed at 9:00am, 12:00pm, 6:30 pm and 10:30 pm, and it was helping like the vet said but now its back to the way it was, I guess no one here has ever heard or had this problem.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:57 PM
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I would also like to know what brand of food you are feeding your dog?
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Old March 21st, 2007, 08:59 PM
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Perhaps its what he is eating.

Could you pin point the exact food you're feeding here.
http://www.nutroproducts.com/dog.asp
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:01 PM
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He has the maximum nutrients Nutro and he gets fed at 9:00am, 12:00pm, 6:30 pm and 10:30 pm, and it was helping like the vet said but now its back to the way it was, I guess no one here has ever heard or had this problem.
We were posting at the same time. I used to feed my dogs Nutro and they used to throw up bile occassionally. I found out this was happening with alot of others that fed their dogs Nutro. Since I quit using it I have not had any problems.

I would suggest that you also switch foods (gradually) and you should check out our food forum here for some better choices. If you have any questions (and I'm sure you will) please don't hesitate to ask.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:01 PM
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You sound exactly like me. My dog has done this since he was almost 3 months old. We've done every test possible, scopes and biopsies and blood tests/fecal tests/urine tests, you name it. I have a throwy-upy dog. He's healthy, he's happy, and he throws up. Not as much now as he used to, but he still does it.

I would at least contact a specialist to rule out the million and one things that can cause it, if all you've seen are regular vets they might not have all the info you need.

We've found that probiotic yogurt - we give him a teaspoon a day, but he's only 9 pounds! - helps quite a bit, and we've started digestive enzymes sprinkled on his food too. Since doing that we've cut the vomit wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down. Also, we're on an allergy formula food just to rule out any sensitivities that way.

We're at the point where nothing is wrong with our dog except that he throws up. The vets say so, the specialist from the veterinary college says so, the trainers we have say so, and we say so too. He's just a throwy upy dog. Just make sure you actually rule everything else out, ok? Really... see if you can find a doggy internal gastro specialist and see if you can find the cause, because what the specialist will think and do is much more detailed than a regular general practice vet.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:02 PM
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Perhaps its what he is eating.

Could you pin point the exact food you're feeding here.
http://www.nutroproducts.com/dog.asp
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Erykah, I've heard it's happened with several of Nutro's formulas.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:04 PM
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I've read that on here too, I dont have experience with it, but it would be really helpful to see the food ingredients and see what food could be a good easy switch.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:22 PM
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You sound exactly like me...I have a throwy-upy dog.
...and me too . Lucky's always been a "throwy-upy" dog as well. We've noticed a big change since we switched his food to Canidae and added probiotics daily. Only one throwy-upy crises in the past month!

Brandi.lea, do you give him chew bones such as raw hide or any other types? I noticed that when I let my dogs chew too much raw hide, thew often threw up soon afterwards. Is he chewing on sticks or branches when he's outdoors?
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:28 PM
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he doesnt chew anything outside because hes not allowed out by himself because a couple of months ago he was eating stuff he shouldnt like forzen poop (I know its gross), he doesnt really get raw hides or anything like that. He only gets sick in the morning, usually about an hour before he gets fed, hes doesnt throw up during the day just in the middle of the night or early morning. I dont know what to switch him to because Nutro has no bi products and I like that idea so I would need something similiar but I dont know if thats the problem
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:32 PM
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There is Canidae, Acana, Orijen, Solid Gold, Innova... the list goes on.

Lets assume this is the one your feeding.
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Ingredients
Chicken Meal, Wheat Flour, Ground Whole Wheat, Rice Bran, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of natural Vitamin E), Corn Gluten Meal, Ground Rice, Lamb Meal, Natural Flavors, Yeast Culture, Calcium Carbonate, Monosodium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Dried Buttermilk, Dried Kelp, Dried Egg Product, Lecithin, Zinc Sulfate, Iron Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Oxide, Garlic, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin (source of Vitamin B2), Calcium Iodate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Copper Sulfate.
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Chicken Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Dried Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement
Its a close food, but a bit better at the same time.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:36 PM
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Heres the website.
http://www.canidae.com/
Heres another few.
http://www.championpetfoods.com/about/
http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=home-tab
http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/

A food switch shouldnt hurt, I mean, Nutro is apparently notorious for causing the same symptoms you are describing. I would look into a food change.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:45 PM
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I will try and switch his food and see if that helps, I never knew that Nutro had those kinds of problems so thanks to everyone who helped and to people who had similiar problems it shed some light on it at least, and I have some options again, I didnt know what I was going to do, everyone have a good night.
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I would begin by changing his diet and give Canidae a try but I'm a little biased because it really made a change quickly with Lucky. I add a little warm water and powdered probiotic (1/4 tsp 1x per day), found in the freezer section at a health food store or at some pharmacies. Do some research on the foods recommended and let us know how what you've decided and how it's working out.
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He only gets sick in the morning, usually about an hour before he gets fed, hes doesnt throw up during the day just in the middle of the night or early morning. I dont know what to switch him to because Nutro has no bi products and I like that idea so I would need something similiar but I dont know if thats the problem
This is the same as what a lot of people reported when feeding their dogs Nutro and once they switched the puking bile stopped. Erykah gave you a few good choices. The food forum here will show you others.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:51 PM
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I will try and switch his food and see if that helps, I never knew that Nutro had those kinds of problems so thanks to everyone who helped and to people who had similiar problems it shed some light on it at least, and I have some options again, I didnt know what I was going to do, everyone have a good night.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:54 PM
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Agree with everything ~ probiotics to help the "good" flora in his gut, digestive enzymes until he can do it on his own. Definitely a food switch is worth a try. Our food forum is A+ on current and thorough information ~ give it a whirl. You can do better than Nutro. And you may well be dealing with a food sensitivity/ allergy. No one will think you are stupid (I'm new to the world of kibble too and have learned alot over the past year) ~ ask whatever you need to ask.

You don't mention proportions in your feeding schedule. Giving food before bed is likely helping his gut (he may be on acid overload at night and this gives his tummy something to do) but it should really only be no more than a handful of kibble.
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Oh dear ... I switched Tia the German Shepherd to Nutro (large breed lamb & rice) because everything else we tried was giving her the chucks - from both ends! Funny how different creatures react to different things! I ended up switching my cats too (the two with CRF) and they are doing really well on the Indoor Senior formula. Their coats are better than they have ever been.
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Was Nutro one of the foods that got recalled?????And wow i never knew some dogs just throw up and that is just the way it is,that would be horrible.......
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Just the canned....not the kibble. Check out the website at www.menufoods.com if you want info on the recalled food.
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brandi.lea - one of my dogs threw-up for years - from a puppy up until I decided to make a food switch - like you, my vet could not give me an idea why this was happening. Apparently I had a healthy dog. I was told she had a sensitive stomach and gastroenteritis.

Well, this continued on for many years until, after finding this site and getting some great advice here, I decided to change foods after feeding her the same thing (lamb and rice -Nutrum and then Eukanuba brands).

I feel so bad now because I didn't have any idea it was the food (whether she just couldn't tolerate the lamb or some other ingredient) who knows, but once I found the right food for her - the stomach and intestinal problems are gone! I can't even remember the last time she threw-up!

Now, I am not saying this is the problem with your dog but if you have seen several vets I would at least try a food switch!

Good luck to you and I hope you can figure out what is causing the problem!

I think it's great that you are seeking out this information early on - unlike me - I didn't realize until my poor dog had been vomitting for years!
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