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black lab help
I have a 6 month old lab. He listens very well to sit, down etc.... the problem is when he is left alone in the house. We tried using a crate but every single day i was scrubbing down my whole kitchen. He goes to the bathroom in it then jumps around so there was crap marks on the fridge, stove, freezer etc... you name it he got crap on it. so now we leave him in the house. He has chewed every single one of the seats on the kitchen chairs in the corners, chewed the table, trying to chew the baseboards. He is completely wrecking my house. Today i got home to no curtains left on the patio door and the curtain rod all bent. He has lots and lots of chew toys, bones so its not cuz he is bored or so i dont think...does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do to make this stop. My husband is having a fit and is ready to get rid of him.
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well he's not supposed to poop in the crate. You have to properly crate train him. You did it wrong, that's why he pooped there.
you take him poo BEFORE you put him in th crate. How long does he stay in teh crate for?? Because if he's not properly house trained then he won't hold it in for that long. adn you need to get him used to the crate; that's the only way he won't chew furniture---that and you need to get him chew toys for him to chew instead |
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A tired dog is a good dog and it doesn't sound like your dog is very tired. How much exercise is he getting?
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I do take him to the bathroom before putting him in there. He sleeps in our room during the night without a crate and he holds himself. Its like the second you leave he has to go on the floor. I can go across the street to the store and when i get back there is pee and poo. could this be his nerves or something for being left alone. and he does get lots of excercise, in and out of the house. he runs around with my 4 kids and we also have 2 cats that keep him running around....
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Running around with your kids to release energy is sort of like going to chucky cheese vs running a marathon. They're very two different ways of burning off energy (one gets you all worked up, the other leaves you tired).
I would suggest taking your dog for a LONG controlled walk (or even better, a long run) before attempting to leave him alone. |
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Night training is very different from day training. It sounds as if your puppy is not getting nearly enough exercise. You will need to exercise him til he is tired, if energy is back in a half hour he is not getting enough. If he is doing laps in the home, he is not getting enough. Walking does not get rid of enough unless you are taking a long fast paced walk or run.
Has he been to obedience. He has too much freedom that he is not ready for. He shouldn't be left out if he is destructive. Get an x-pen to contain him while you are out and for the potty training, you need to start over from scratch. He needs the basics and doesn't have them. Having chew toys out all the time get very boring very quickly. Rotate the toys so that there is always something interesting. Have you considered daycare for your pup. This will take care of the exercise part as well as teach him many other important skills. This will make it easier for you to teach him acceptable behaviours because he won't be spun out and over stimulated. It will make it easier for him to learn and retain what you teach him. Is he fixed, he may also be beginning to mark. Are you leaving his food out to free feed. Not giving scheduled meals make it difficult to potty train and doesn't help with setting up pack status. What are you using to clean up. You need an enzymatic cleaner to remove all the smells. |
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I know how discouraging this can be...when we first got Buster, he had seperation anxiety which made him poop in his crate and then he'd dance around in it and there would be poop EVERYWHERE
Labs need alot of exercice and become very destructive when they don't get it. He's bored, he doesn't know he's doing something wrong, he's just trying to keep his mind occupied. I recommend you take him for a walk in the morning before leaving for work and then another walk when you come home. Also, he needs to be crate trained properly. The easiest way to do this is to introduce the crate slowly. You put him in for 2 minutes, then let him out. Slowly increase the time he spends in there. Also, you should start feeding him in his crate. Dogs will rarely pee or poo where they eat. I used to leave his empty food bowl in there to remid him that's where he was going to be eating, and it seemed to help. I know right now it feels like a huge deal, and that he's doing this just to piss you off (trust me, I was in your shoes 2 years ago!!), but dogs don't 'take revenge', all he needs is a little more exercice and a little patience. Good luck
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This sounds like the beginning of separation anxiety and you need to start teaching him how to be alone in shorter spurts.
Please do not over exercise this young pup in long sessions. It can damage his bones and joints for life. Lots of shorter physical and mental workouts get the job done without taxing his body. I would recommend that he spend short times in the crate with you home - 5 minutes here - 10 mintues there - growing to longer times. Then when he adjusts to that you can start practicing leaving the house for 5 seconds and then 20 seconds and so on. Do not say good-bye or make a fuss when you leave and don't acknowledge him when you return. You need to become an non-event. Are you leaving him with good chew toys in the crate? It would be good for him to have something to release his stress on. Also a DAP diffuser might help him to stay calm more naturally.
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This was pinned in another forum, but has a lot of advice and tips from someone who has an SA dog like yours. Severe SA is no picnic and there are no quick and easy fixes. it's a phobia not just a behaviour problem I hope the article helps, one thing I will add , Clomicalm which is mentioned takes 4 to 6 weeks to take effect, if a dog is in danger of hurting himself because the panic attacks are so bad, sometimes is worth using small doses of valium for the first 6 weeks, the pooping is involuntary the dog has no control over, the bowels become too over active due to the stress
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Exceptional advise!!!: Work with it and it will work with you!
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excellent post OG !
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Welcome to the world of having a "maniac" black Lab.
I have to agree with everyone else on this. Sounds like Seperation Anxiety! Just remember, the problem wont be solved over night, and if dog isn't learning, then "he" doesnt undertand what "he's" meant to do. Im sure with love and time, you will sort things out. Good luck.
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another thing to remember is that he is ONLY a pup.
Black labs out of all the labs are the most energetic, but the easiest to train. Book him into doogy day care if you are out all day. If I lived closer I would take him off your hands. I know what the blacks are like... in the end all the hard work WILL pay off.,they are loyal and devoted. The more you put into them, the more you get from them. Please dont give up on him.
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Good advise everyone....I just went through this about 3-4 months ago with my almost two year old pitbull....What I did was slowly introduce him to the kennel again and the potty training....I used kongs in his kennel while I was away. I put peanutbutter in them and then put it in the freezer until it was time for me to leave...I told him kennel and gave him his kong and left...I didnt say anything to him but "kennel". The only time he got the kong was when I was away. It seemed to work for him. He wasn't afraid of the kennel and he knew he was getting a treat while I was away and it kept him busy.
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