Cat's teeth removed - won't eat

[chico2]

Since I know nothing about this disease,could it in any way be related to her experience staying 2 weeks at the hospital,having all her teeth pulled?

[growler~GateKeeper]

Originally Posted by meow

New vet just called and said Simba has pancreatitis.

Yeah, that's what I thought.......

Now at least there is a full diagnosis & the Drs can begin appropriate treatments, it sounds like the pancreatitis is the main issue here and the kidney failure is a less urgent matter right now but will still be treated accordingly.

Some more links on Pancreatitis:

http://www.harpsie.com/pancreatitis.htm

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/panc...__feline_.html

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/felinepancreatitis/

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/F...titis_Support/

[Love4himies]

Originally Posted by meow

It looks like i can't just write a letter and complain. It goes through a hearing prcoess.

http://www.ct.gov/dph/lib/dph/facili...umer_guide.pdf

I can't take time off from work for any hearing. I did get the dental xrays via email today and am going to take them to a real dentist for review. then i will write my letter.

My cat's name is simba

That link is to the Dept of Health, not the CVMA

http://www.ctvet.org/ethics.php

I am sure with the help of your new vet and the ICU hospital you can lodge a complaint.

[meow]

Originally Posted by chico2

Since I know nothing about this disease,could it in any way be related to her experience staying 2 weeks at the hospital,having all her teeth pulled?

absolutely. it can be brought on by stress and shock.

[meow]

Originally Posted by growler

Yeah, that's what I thought.......

Now at least there is a full diagnosis & the Drs can begin appropriate treatments, it sounds like the pancreatitis is the main issue here and the kidney failure is a less urgent matter right now but will still be treated accordingly.

Some more links on Pancreatitis:

http://www.harpsie.com/pancreatitis.htm

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/panc...__feline_.html

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/felinepancreatitis/

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/F...titis_Support/

thanks for the links
so this means i should stop the acidopholius?
One study into humans with severe acute pancreatitis found that using probiotics more than doubled the risk of death. The same may not apply to cats but I would not take the risk. If you are using probiotics, therefore, I would speak urgently to your vet about stopping them. Medical Imaging reports on this study.

[meow]

Originally Posted by Love4himies

That link is to the Dept of Health, not the CVMA

http://www.ctvet.org/ethics.php

I am sure with the help of your new vet and the ICU hospital you can lodge a complaint.

great now i have 2 places to complain to, in addition to the society for prevention of cruelty to animals (or whatever it is called). I can't complain YET. I am having the records reviewed by a real dental expert at a leading university. what he says or doesn't say will determine what i do

p.s. he is listed with them!

[meow]

Originally Posted by Love4himies

That link is to the Dept of Health, not the CVMA

http://www.ctvet.org/ethics.php

I am sure with the help of your new vet and the ICU hospital you can lodge a complaint.

the dept of health actually issues the vetrinary license in this state

[sugarcatmom]

How is Simba doing today? Anymore vomiting?

Has the vet been checking her blood glucose levels? Pancreatitis and diabetes frequently go hand-in-hand. Other than that, supportive care is really all you can do. Painkillers can help, maybe an anti-inflammatory, fluids if she needs them, or an anti-emetic if there is more vomiting. The food issue can be controversial, some say it should be low fat (which is true for dogs - maybe not so much with cats), but low carb is also important. It can be a tough issue to deal with, and you and Simba are in my thoughts.

[meow]

thanks everyone. she threw up a little this am. looked like bile. she wanted to eat last night but would only eat dru food. refuses every brand/flavor of canned food. so i let her eat the dry (she won't eat the dry if it is soaked in water). anyway then i was thinking: if she can't chew the dry she is swallowing it whole (little tiny nuggets) so how does she digest that if it isn't chewed? I was scared to feed her this am but i did it slowly. we finished 30 min ago and no vomit yet. usually she vomits immediately after eating so here is hoping.

[chico2]

meow,looking at her pic,she has such a sweet face and i makes me really sad for what you are going through
for Simba and you..
I am certain,2 weeks in pain,in a strange place,not seeing you,made her incredibly stressed:sad:

[Love4himies]

Originally Posted by meow

the dept of health actually issues the vetrinary license in this state

Wow, you can go on this site and see all the doctors who have had disciplinary action against them.

[meow]

i was on the phone with the vet. he told me to give simba 1/2 tsp of??????????????????????????????????????

i can't remember if it was mylanta or pepsid ac. i bought mylanta but all of sudden i can't remember which one he said. omg i am losing my mind. i won't give her anything tonight b/c i can't remember which it was.

[meow]

Originally Posted by chico2

meow,looking at her pic,she has such a sweet face and i makes me really sad for what you are going through
for Simba and you..
I am certain,2 weeks in pain,in a strange place,not seeing you,made her incredibly stressed:sad:

i agree and having her teeth yanked out and now i think it wasn't even warranted.
thanks for saying my girl has a sweet face. i agree

[sugarcatmom]

Originally Posted by meow

i was on the phone with the vet. he told me to give simba 1/2 tsp of??????????????????????????????????????

i can't remember if it was mylanta or pepsid ac. i bought mylanta but all of sudden i can't remember which one he said. omg i am losing my mind. i won't give her anything tonight b/c i can't remember which it was.

If it's a liquid measurement he gave you, he likely meant Mylanta because I think Pepcid AC only comes in tablets. I do know that Pepcid AC (not "Complete" or "Maximum Strength") is frequently prescribed for cats with various digestive issues. Usual dose is 1/4 to 1/2 of a 10mg tablet.

[meow]

Originally Posted by sugarcatmom

If it's a liquid measurement he gave you, he likely meant Mylanta because I think Pepcid AC only comes in tablets. I do know that Pepcid AC (not "Complete" or "Maximum Strength") is frequently prescribed for cats with various digestive issues. Usual dose is 1/4 to 1/2 of a 10mg tablet.

thanks just stopped at vet to ask. he said to give her mylanta. the vet techs and i never heard of that before but that's what he prefers b/c it has phosporus binders in it. have you heard of this?

[sugarcatmom]

Originally Posted by meow

thanks just stopped at vet to ask. he said to give her mylanta. the vet techs and i never heard of that before but that's what he prefers b/c it has phosporus binders in it. have you heard of this?

Yup, the Mylanta contains aluminum hydroxide, which is indeed a phosphorus binder. This is the regular strength one, right? Are you supposed to give it with food? Phosphorus binders only work if there is phosphorus (food) present to bind with.

[meow]

Originally Posted by sugarcatmom

Yup, the Mylanta contains aluminum hydroxide, which is indeed a phosphorus binder. This is the regular strength one, right? Are you supposed to give it with food? Phosphorus binders only work if there is phosphorus (food) present to bind with.

i am giving the food via etube and then the mylanta at the end and then flushing the tube. yesterday simba ate 6 pieces of dry food. today nothing yes regular strength, original formula (no flavor)

[meow]

I wrote a letter of complaint about the "surgeon." any ideas on where to send it other than the licensing board, avma, aspca?

[meow]

Originally Posted by sugarcatmom

Yup, the Mylanta contains aluminum hydroxide, which is indeed a phosphorus binder. This is the regular strength one, right? Are you supposed to give it with food? Phosphorus binders only work if there is phosphorus (food) present to bind with.

then how come on the back it has a warning not to take it if you have kidney problems?

[sugarcatmom]

Originally Posted by meow

then how come on the back it has a warning not to take it if you have kidney problems?

I think they usually say to consult with your doctor if you have kidney issues because it can take compromised kidneys longer to process, so the dose would likely be less. Same with Pepcid AC, but it is commonly used for CRF cats since stomach acid is a frequent problem. Here is some more info: http://www.felinecrf.org/treatments....g_stomach_acid

[meow]

Originally Posted by sugarcatmom

I think they usually say to consult with your doctor if you have kidney issues because it can take compromised kidneys longer to process, so the dose would likely be less. Same with Pepcid AC, but it is commonly used for CRF cats since stomach acid is a frequent problem. Here is some more info: http://www.felinecrf.org/treatments....g_stomach_acid

wow i didn't know about raising the bowl up. hard to do now b/c of collar on during day. but will experiment. thank you

[meow]

OMG! I am at work balling my eyes out. This "surgeon" belongs to the academy of vet detistry NOT the american vetrinary dental college. what does this mean? he is misrepresenting himself to the public and to me. I am sitting here balling my eyes out. i wish i could go home. i feel sick. he was NOT
QUALIFIED to perform the surgery!

[meow]

Simba was given cerenia for nausea. i read about ARF and pancreatitis. both cause simba's symptoms of lethargy. she sleeps about 23 hours a day. she is so freaked at the vet they want to try having a vet tech come to my house to change simba's wrap around her neck and give her SQ fluids. they are going to try and teach me how to do the SQ fluids.

My poor kitty!

I have a subponea to get her medical records because he won't release them and I am having a medical malpractice attorney look into all of this. that doesn't help simba but i don't want anyone to go through this. i got some documentation from a high place that will help me with my complaint.

[growler~GateKeeper]

Subq's will help Simba to feel better, it may seem scary at first to do it yourself but it honestly is not that bad, it really becomes routine once you get used to it.

This is a good guide to the procedure: http://www.weirdstuffwemake.com/weir.../catjuice.html

[meow]

Originally Posted by growler

Subq's will help Simba to feel better, it may seem scary at first to do it yourself but it honestly is not that bad, it really becomes routine once you get used to it.

This is a good guide to the procedure: http://www.weirdstuffwemake.com/weir.../catjuice.html

ok. vet said she is dehydrated but it boarderline. she gave her sub q's on monday and she has drank any water since! that's not good!

[meow]

i subponea'd the old vet for her records. he had the nerve to write me and say he was rejecting the subponea! nope it aint legal. now his lawyer is calling my lawyer. weirdo.

[sugarcatmom]

Originally Posted by meow

i subponea'd the old vet for her records. he had the nerve to write me and say he was rejecting the subponea! nope it aint legal. now his lawyer is calling my lawyer. weirdo.

That's crazy! This guy must really have something to hide. Good for you for putting up a fight.

How is Simba doing these days?

[chico2]

Meow,I was under the impression from when I changed vets,they have to give you the records,they usually charge a smallish fee.
How is Simba doing,better I hope...poor little girl

[meow]

Originally Posted by chico2

Meow,I was under the impression from when I changed vets,they have to give you the records,they usually charge a smallish fee.
How is Simba doing,better I hope...poor little girl

By law it must be surrendered!

[meow]

Originally Posted by sugarcatmom

That's crazy! This guy must really have something to hide. Good for you for putting up a fight.

How is Simba doing these days?

exactly...he does have something to hide.
Simba was given a pain killer yesterday and she spazed out. I will never give it to her again. It was like she was on a halluicinogenin (sp?) she didn't sleep for 24 hours and neither did I. she is on pepcid ac now and zithromax for the pancreatitis. poor little girl. she ate 2 kibbles of food today.

Get this: I tried to dispute the charges with my credit card company. They said since services were performed I can't dispute. Even though there was misrepresentation and fraud? They told me to call the police.