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Conservatives | 17 | 27.87% | |
Liberals | 13 | 21.31% | |
NDP | 17 | 27.87% | |
Green Party | 7 | 11.48% | |
Bloc | 0 | 0% | |
Independent | 0 | 0% | |
Not Sure | 7 | 11.48% | |
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll |
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In keeping with the recent political discussions. Who is everyone planning to vote for in this election?
Any one else struggling this time around with the parties, their platforms and the issues?? I'm really having a problem putting together a coherent and educated voting scenario myself this time!! |
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OMG that will be the only time youll see that NDP at 100 % LOL
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I think that the most important thing for voters to do will be to thoroughly review the party platforms. They should be released sometime soon, at which point everyone can go to their websites and really sink into what the parties believe in.
My thoughts: The media is biased so listening to them will only cloud your judgement. Allow yourself the opportunity to learn on your own---not use the media to tell you how it is. |
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The question is... do you trust the various party "spin doctors" more than the media?!?!?! |
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I wouldn't trust any party spin doctors. I would want to review the platforms on my own. Don't listen to other people, just review the words on the paper. These are their promises, they are written and the parties can be held to account for their words.
I would skip by any thing else on the websites too and make a beeline for the platforms. |
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Are you an innocent or just an idealist??? The spin doctors put together the written policies/platforms as well as the speeches, debates etc. |
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I am quite aware of who writes what. I'm wondering though, if you won't put any faith in platforms, why would you believe the media who wear their biases on their sleeves? Furthermore, I simply made a suggestion that people should inform themselves by reviewing the root of each party. I have no idea why my suggestion would make you think i'm either an idealist or innocent. Because I feel that your condescending question is unnecessary, I see no reason to validate it with a response. |
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I really take it all with a grain of salt. Maybe I'm overly cynical but I really believe anything the parties or prime ministerial candidates, print or speak is primarily crafted and shaped to get votes; while the actual policy seems to be a mere after thought.
The true measure of a party in our system are the views and perspectives of the individual riding candidates who really are the grassroots of the party. Unfortunately it really seems that our democratic process is starting to collapse under the burdensome weight of the recent trend of political parties catering to their own self serving interests rather than truly serving the public good. I think I may become an anarchist. |
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I wasn't being condescending at all. I apologize if it came across that way. Besides there is nothing wrong with being an idealist. In fact I often wish I still was one myself. I am just very cynical as to the actual value of the party propaganda. Last edited by Gazoo; December 15th, 2005 at 08:55 PM. |
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Well that's exactly why Canadians should start demanding that politicians live up to their election promises. McGuinty is a fine example of someone who told one tale and once elected, wrote a new story.
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Now wouldn't it be nice if we could hold them accountable for their promises.
Almost every one of them breaks them so maybe this is why we don't trust them. |
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A good example of politician promises made to win an election just happened in Montreal where Gerald Tremblay promised not to raise residential taxes if he was reelected mayor. Well, less than 2 months after he was reelected, he put out his budget that involved tax hikes for more than 2/3 of Montrealers. It got so much crap from the media that he scrapped his budget.
You have to think, these twits are out to win an election. They're like dog food companies- they know what they're selling but they write it all up in such wishy-washy words that nobody really knows what it's all about. I like Craig Oliver on CTV. He seems to be the most critical of all the parties and he makes good points. He points out where the parties switch opinions and the consequences of their promises. It's great. I like to read the promises, but only as a really basic guideline. If there is a lot in a party that I don't like, I won't vote for them, but if I like it all, my vote is still not guaranteed. I just haven't crossed them off yet. What happened to all the money from the last election? A lot of people voted NDP to raise their election money and what difference has it made? |
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As to media bias, all sides claim the media is controlled by the other side by the way . . . . but you'll never see the CBC accused of right wing bias. The test of a good media outlet is whether or not it is accused of bias by both sides, a pretty good indication its getting things right. Although referencing the USA political scene, this is a pretty good examination of the politics of paranoia. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...24_page2.shtml Rick C www.goldentales.ca |
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Bump for more votes...I'm really curious
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Hey, so far Pets.ca may havae created a new coalition government, NDP/Green!
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THis is my listing of most prefered to least (of the major parties)
Green NDP Liberal Conservative As stupid as the liberals have been lately, I will still take them over conservatives. I think my vote will probably be a preventative one again this time, in that I would rather vote NDP or Green, but will probably vote liberal just to keep the conservatives out. Ohh...wanted to add that we don't have bloc members here so...don't really think I would vote for them. We have an AWSOME green party candidate in my area. He is a family phyician who works in a naturopathic clinic. He is so nice (been to him a couple times) and his clinic is so nice. They have massage, chiropractic, family doctors, and all kinds of free and pay "sessions" and seminars. They even have meditation on weekday mornings.
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Prevent a litter Fix your critter Last edited by raingirl; December 16th, 2005 at 08:37 PM. |
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Exactly, Babyrocky. I doubt I will vote for who I really like (NDP) rather I'll probably vote against the party I really don't want to win (against the Conservatives/Bloc by voting Lib).
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I'm a moderate, but...with the country fairly flush with $$ right now I really think a minority Conservative government might be a good idea and the best of both worlds... as their fiscal conservatism would assure that the we don't squander and fritter away the $$, maintaining our positve economic position, while their minority position would be a check to assure that they don't become overly socially conservative.
I also like the Conservatives goal in re-building our pathetic military and in turn strengthening our world position and our sovereignty. Our military has really become an international embarassment, we are a country known and lauded for a protective peacekeeping role in the world and we've leet our military erode to the point we cannot even do that effectively anymore, which in my opinion is a necessity in helping the world in humanitarian and peacekeeping missions. Last edited by Gazoo; December 17th, 2005 at 10:14 PM. |
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OOOO, I'm so glad you started this thread Gazoo -- I was thinking about starting one, but was afraid a political debate would get outta hand WAYYY too fast!
I'm really confused about who to vote for. Bloc -- I think that they are a relatively smart bunch BUT I'm not a seperatist and voting for them means spending millions on a useless referendum -- which even if they won, the Supreme Court made it impossible to make a unilateral split from Canada. Liberals -- the liberals should be punished for the sponsorship scandal. It's not ok to send out the message that the governement can rob us and we'll do nothing about it. They'll never be found guilty in a courtroom -- so they should be found guilty at the polls. Conservative -- I don't think spending millions on military is a great idea. My brother was in the military for years , in the engineer departement -- they used to build bridges and then blow them up -- for practice. You know how many mouthes could have been fed with the money spoend on those 'training sessions'? We won't be going to war anytime soon...so why spend our money THERE?? Just MHO though, please don't be mad -- I have full respect for the opposite opinions. Also I don't like that Harper wants to go back on the 'gay mariage' issue. I'm a live and let live type of person, and everyone should have the same rights. AND, he's also against abortions -- don't even get me started!! NPD -- they're actually looking the best to me now. But they'll increase taxes like crazy -- the democrates are BIG spenders. AND I'm not too keen on the leader..... And voting for anyone else is throwing a vote out the window.....I wish we had a better choice of candidates.
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Marie-Eve and Buster (5 year old-ish rescued Boxer) Deep thought, by Jack Handey : "I think my new thing will be to try to be a real happy guy. I'll just walk around being real happy until some jerk says something stupid to me." Last edited by meb999; December 17th, 2005 at 10:22 PM. |
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Yeah their socially conservative approach bugs me too...but if they're a minority they'd be kept in check |
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In fact, at the March 19th policy convention, the vote on this issue was in favour of pro choice. I don't want to hijack this thread, I just want to keep it accruate. On that note, the Leader cannot make the policies himself...without the backing of the party, which he would never get on the issue of abortion, no CPC government could, or would ever, take any action on this issue. |
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I don't trust that enough. To me, a conservative government would spend the next 4 years regressing- taking all we've accomplished in civil rights and undoing it.
How can I vote for somebody who, if he got his way, would have girls secretly crossing the border or using coat hangers? No thanks. And Will and Jack next door? Who cares if they're married or not? How does it affect your life? You can say that it's against your religion, yeah, so? If you're a Catholic and the neighbor's a Protestant, isn't that against your religion too? Like Trudeau said, the govt has no place in the bedroom of its people. Move on! Move forward!! Wanna talk about wasting taxpayer's money? |
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A Conservative government would be a minority and thus it would be kept in check by the opposition in any vote in the house.
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Better the devil ya know than the one ya don't! I'm voting Liberal. |
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Marie-Eve and Buster (5 year old-ish rescued Boxer) Deep thought, by Jack Handey : "I think my new thing will be to try to be a real happy guy. I'll just walk around being real happy until some jerk says something stupid to me." |
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But no matter what, as a women's rights activist, I can't bring myself to vote for conservatives. We've come too far to let a Bush-wanna-be bring the women's movement back 20 years....
The problem is I can't bring myself to vote for thieves or for seperatists either!!!
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