new puppy

[TinaMcq]

Hi just a question when getting a new puppy when they get there first shots are they not vet checked to? Cause this one ad said first shots but not vet checked and they will refund any money if the vet shows they have medical problems that will cost the new owners more money?

[bendyfoot]

Sometimes breeders get vaccines from the vet and administer the shots themselves. Where is this pup coming from?

[TinaMcq]

someones dog just had a litter the puppies aren't ready yet the first week of June. They are yorkiepoo and shih shue king mix (I know I am spelling it wrong) and they are selling them for 200 dollars each enough to cover the costs of getting there dog fixed and taking care of the litter.

[14+kitties]

Did I miss something? What happened with Skipper? I know he bit your son but......... Are you going to add another puppy to the mix?

[TinaMcq]

No I am not adding another dog since skipper is dog aggressive it won't work. At this time I have skipper in kijiji trying to give him free to a good home no kids no other animals so far no takers and his 10 days are up tomorrow (thursday), I want to keep him however I can't talk my grandmother into it believe me I have been trying its not skippers fault at all, I stressed that to her but she says no and said if you love that dog more then your son then keep it honestly......................I look at the ads on kijiji but i wanted to know about that I think it will be way to soon to add another right now maybe its just me thinking out loud...........

[14+kitties]

Oh please, put him on Petfinders or some other reliable method but he doesn't deserve kijiji. Have you looked at someone to maybe foster him? I don't know how to go about that but there are lots here who do. No animal deserves to be put in kijiji.

[luckypenny]

Please, kijiji is not the most effective way to rehome a loved dog.

Try contacting the Kitchener/Waterloo Humane Society and see if they have any foster homes or if there is any way they may be able to help Skipper. If they are unable to, ask them for a list of Rescues in and surrounding your area. Then ask your grandmother to be patient...that you're trying to do the responsible thing here.

http://www.kwhumane.com/

[luckypenny]

I wanted to add, without sounding offensive so please forgive me if I come across that way. I don't believe you should be considering a new puppy at this time. As you've explained it, I understand that you are dependant on your grandmother. What happens when after a couple of weeks/months, she decides to tell you she doesn't want that one in her home either? In addition, you've mentioned your son played rough with Skipper and didn't listen to you when you told him to stop. Unfortunately, if you don't have control over your son's behavior, do you believe it to be fair to the new pup?

Perhaps one day when you are more stable and independant, and when your son is much older and respects your rules, you might be able to give a winning chance to a puppy who needs a good home.

My best wishes to Skipper. I pray he finds the home he so deserves.

[TinaMcq]

I am not getting a new puppy I would like to but I am not right now, I was just reading the ads, and read that one and had a question so I am sorry if it came out that way but I just can't do that right now. And my grandmother is only making me not keep skipper cause of the bitting she said she enjoyed having him there so if I did lets say, she wouldn't just say get rid of it. Plus whats wrong with kijiji?

[Love4himies]

I don't know your situation, Tinamcq and haven't followed all your postings, but have you exhausted all means to retrain/socialise your dog? Dogs are not disposable and unless all avenues have been tried and failed, I disagree with getting rid of your dog.

[ancientgirl]

Originally Posted by TinaMcq

someones dog just had a litter the puppies aren't ready yet the first week of June. They are yorkiepoo and shih shue king mix (I know I am spelling it wrong) and they are selling them for 200 dollars each enough to cover the costs of getting there dog fixed and taking care of the litter.

So the people who posted this ad want to charge people for a puppy that's a mixed breed just so they can cover getting their own dog fixed which they should have done in the first place? Geez!

[angeldogs]

Originally Posted by luckypenny

Please, kijiji is not the most effective way to rehome a loved dog.

Try contacting the Kitchener/Waterloo Humane Society and see if they have any foster homes or if there is any way they may be able to help Skipper. If they are unable to, ask them for a list of Rescues in and surrounding your area. Then ask your grandmother to be patient...that you're trying to do the responsible thing here.

http://www.kwhumane.com/

Kitchener HS will put him down if he shows any aggression if they take him.
If something can be done about his biting would your grandmother allow him to stay if so call the trainer/behaviorist i gave you the phone number too and talk to her.she specializes in aggression and behavioral problems.she does want to help

[Elizabeth Ann]

I once had to re-home a cat. I had met and fell in love with a man that was allergic and we purchased a house together. Poor little Princes was a very good and loving cat and I hated that I had give her up (in hindsight I should have given up the boy, but I digress).

I contacted the Oakville H/S and a rescue group stating that I was not looking to surrender Princes to them but I wanted their help to find her a good and loving home. And I needed to meet and interview the potential new parents myself. My mother and then boyfriend thought that I was crazy. They said that neither the H/S nor the cat rescue would go for it. They were right about the H/S but the cat rescue was more then happy to help.

I met two couples and even saw one couples house. I made my decision and two days later delivered Princes to her new home. I was crying so much on the way home that my now ex had to pull the car over.

Anyways – my point is that Kijiji is not a great tool for re-homing animals. I think you would be better off following the above suggestions and contacting some originations in your area to help you with the process. It may even speed things up for you, and there is a better chance your little one will find a very good and loving home.

[mastifflover]

Please do not put the dog on Kijiji and especially for free, unless you are not worried about the dog being abused or used for research. Free to good home is the worst thing you can do. The other thing is the ad sounds like a puppy mill or byb. The shelters and rescues are the place to go why pay someone for a mutt that may have many medical issues. Helping a rescue or shelter dog saves a dog and also gives them money to save more dogs. But honestly I do not think you are ready for the lifetime commitment that is involved in getting a pet. They are not disposable even though people seem to think they are.

[TinaMcq]

I found out even if I found skipper a new home or foster home that if Skipper bit anyone again I still would be liable. Being a single mom I couldn't take a chance on having skipper bit someone and having a huge lawsuit what if skipper bit my son again but much worse? Honestly I love Skipper and I wanted to keep him but I really couldn't take that chance I am sorry if I let people down but sometimes even though the decissions are hard you have to make the right choice and I choose not to put my son in harms way. I could never be sure if Skipper would do that again. I am sorry.

[Masha]

Tina, Please contact a rescue group in your area before you make a decision that you may regret for the rest of your life. I am sure they will be able to help or atleast point you to the right people who can.

[Love4himies]

Originally Posted by TinaMcq

I found out even if I found skipper a new home or foster home that if Skipper bit anyone again I still would be liable. Being a single mom I couldn't take a chance on having skipper bit someone and having a huge lawsuit what if skipper bit my son again but much worse? Honestly I love Skipper and I wanted to keep him but I really couldn't take that chance I am sorry if I let people down but sometimes even though the decissions are hard you have to make the right choice and I choose not to put my son in harms way. I could never be sure if Skipper would do that again. I am sorry.

I don't believe that, if you have a contract with the new adopter stating skippers biting issues, then the new owners are responsible for the dog's actions, not you. If you hid it from the new adopters, they could sue you for not telling them.

[BeagleMum]

Originally Posted by TinaMcq

I found out even if I found skipper a new home or foster home that if Skipper bit anyone again I still would be liable.

I have heard that before as well actually but I am not sure how true it is. I will have to look into it and see if that is right.

[danaekitty]

L4H - you asked if Tina had taken any other measures to try to control Skipper - I believe the phrase "one step forward, two steps back" applies well to this dog.

Tina - I'm so sorry that it has come to this I know you tried as hard as you could with Skipper, gave him chances, and you're a good person for adopting him in the first place.

Good luck with finding him a good home.

[mastifflover]

Not true if you sign a surrender form and disclose you everything the new owners become responsible for the dog. If you did not disclose everything then you may be liable

[TinaMcq]

Ty Beaglemom..... I don't know how we got on the topic of Skipper when i just had a simple question about an ad? It was something about having its first shots but not vet checked and I didn't understand how it could get its first shots without being vet checked that's it. I am not getting a new puppy right now I was just looking at the ads.... I unfortantly do not have Skipper anymore I have worked very hard (maybe not as hard as some people would) but I did my best, biting my son wasent' the first time Skipper bit someone he also bit my sister in her hand but we didn't report it, he was sitting on her lap and her dog came over to her, skipper is very protective of anyone he is sitting on so the two dogs got into a fight with my sister stuck in the middle and I know it was my dog that bit her cause she has a Saint Bernard and the bits were way to small for it to be his.....My son is afraid of Skipper and I have to put him first....it breaks my heart when I hear him call me to get him out of his room.... I know its not fair for Skipper but I couldn't do it anymore:sad::sad::sad::sad:

[BeagleMum]

So did you have him put to sleep or did you rehome him?

[TinaMcq]

I had put ads in kijiji (not thinking this was a bad spot) I had almost 400 hits but not one taker, I keeped him for as long as I could. He did get put down, its been a horrible ordeal for all of us...

[danaekitty]

Tina - did you even try petfinder or any other means of rehoming before you put him down? Poor skipper...I can't believe this.

[danaekitty]

Tina - I'm sorry if I sounded harsh before. I know you did everything you could think of for Skipper. It's entirely possible that he would have been put down anyway at a shelter, or he may have bit his new owners. You are very nice to have adopted an older dog in the first place, and I didn't mean to jump down your throat in my above post...I was just caught off guard.

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by TinaMcq

he was sitting on her lap and her dog came over to her, skipper is very protective of anyone he is sitting on so the two dogs got into a fight with my sister stuck in the middle

first of all , very bad idea to have put him on her lap , this was a disaster waiting to happen. Your dog didn't bit her intentionaly , she got bit because she got in the middle.

And you are right , you have to put your son first. So YOU have to learn more about dogs before you go and get another one !!!

[luckypenny]

Originally Posted by danaekitty

Tina - did you even try petfinder or any other means of rehoming before you put him down? Poor skipper...I can't believe this.

Danaekitty, I feel exactly this way. Probably why I didn't post when I read this thread late last night, I was livid. But I did go back over all the old threads in relation to Skipper, and I really think this could and should have been dealt with in such a way that the outcome would not have been as it is now. But should haves and could haves can not change Skipper's unjust fate :sad: .

[Love4himies]

Skipper

[TinaMcq]

I am sorry I let everyone down :sad:

[danaekitty]

Tina - I don't think we really meant to come down on you. We know you did your best, and you were as good as you could be for Skipper. Also, many forum members have gone through the sad ordeal of putting one of their animals down, so we can definitely empathize with you. Good luck to your family, and hopefully you'll find the right fit when it comes time for you to take another animal into your home so generously as you did Skipper.