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Old November 9th, 2009, 06:53 PM
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Unhappy I need all the help I can get please.

Brownie is very anemic. I took him in last week and there was bloodwork done. It showed he was to the point where a blood transfusion may be the only thing that "may" save him. He has no parasites, no FeLuek, no FIP. I don't think I have him with me for much longer.
I feel like absolute crap not recognizing that there was something going on earlier. He has always been a quiet cat. I thought he was still eating. He was but not very much.
I need to know if anyone knows of any homeopathic remedies that may help him. I'm not ready to let him go yet. He is eating a small amount of Fancy Feast every day. More if I sit beside him and watch him. I got beef liver and ground it for him tonight. He ate maybe a tblsp of it. I know it's not much but I figure every little bit helps. I have read that B12 may help. Also iron tablets but if I can get him to eat the liver than that would cover the iron. I am giving him water through a syringe.
I need to at least try to do something to help him. I can see the fight he has left. He is interested in food. I know he has nausea too with the lip licking. I just need to do something for him.
If you can help at all let me know. I need ideas. Please. He's only two.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 07:18 PM
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14+ I am wondering if Lysine will help.?? I am no guru by any means!

Is Brownie in the house or in the cattery? I wish there was something else to reccomend? I am sure Growler or SCM will have some ideas! Boy you have had a lot to deal with lately! Hugs MF! and Good Vibes going out to your little sweetie Brownie...

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Old November 9th, 2009, 07:38 PM
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Brownie is in the sanctuary. He is quarantined from the rest of the cats right now in a crate. I had moved him to the house but I could tell he was miserable in here so moved him back over. At least there I know he rests. He can see his friends coming and going. It's killing me not being able to help him.
I know it may come down to euthanization but I want to at least try to help if I can. :sad:
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14+ I'm sorry to hear about Brownie.

Would he have IBS? When willie was first diagnosed with it, he was throwing up several times a day. The doctor put him on prednizone, hooked him up to IV's and did all kinds of testing. He was on IV for a few days as he almost died. It was found he also had a fur ball. He was given diazapam to get his appetite back. A short time after he ate the tranquilizer he just goggled up his food. We didn't keep him on it very long cause he was so unstable on his feet though. We also gave him the paste that is nutriental paste, sorry I can't remember the name. But u probably know what I'm thinking of. Cats with cancer or just not eating eat to get their calories.

Did the doctor test him for IBS? Maybe predinzone would help him like it did Willie?

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Oh no! I'm not familiar with Brownie's story, but do you have a copy of his blood work and urinalysis? Was he tested for FIV? How was FIP ruled out? Do you know if the anemia is regenerative or non-regenerative? Is it possible he ate onions or garlic recently?

I'm sorry that I can't think of any specific holistic remedies to help with the anemia. So much depends on what might be causing it. I have no idea if an appetite stimulant and anti-nausea med like mirtazapine would be warranted in Brownie's case but it might be worth asking the vet about it.
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14+, I'm so sorry Brownie isn't well. I know that liver is good for iron, but you're already giving him some.
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The only advice I had for you was giving him liver but I see you're already doing it.

and don't blame yourself , how could you notice this ? when you have so much on your plate
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I don't have any advice just wanted to say I'm sorry Brownie is not doing well. I will be thinking of the little guy.
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You just can't catch a break this week, can you :sad: The vet couldn't venture a guess as to what might be going on?

Nothing to offer except s, prayers, and for Brownie!
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Oh no! I'm not familiar with Brownie's story, but do you have a copy of his blood work and urinalysis? Was he tested for FIV? How was FIP ruled out? Do you know if the anemia is regenerative or non-regenerative? Is it possible he ate onions or garlic recently?

I'm sorry that I can't think of any specific holistic remedies to help with the anemia. So much depends on what might be causing it. I have no idea if an appetite stimulant and anti-nausea med like mirtazapine would be warranted in Brownie's case but it might be worth asking the vet about it.
Thanks for responding SCM. Brownie's story is short. I misspoke when I said I took him to the vet. My hubby did. I noticed something was definitely not right with Brownie early last week. I made an appointment for as soon as I could get him in. Unfortunately the only day I could get him in without waiting for this week was Friday when I had to work. Tried getting off early but they wouldn't let me go. By the time I got home the vet had called. I called back and talked to her. She asked about taking blood and having it sent out for analysis. I don't know why she couldn't have asked him but she didn't. I guess because to this date she has only dealt with me.
She got the results back today and phoned. She told me prognosis was not good. There was no Feline Leukemia, no FIP. She didn't mention FIV. Is that not checked by doing obtaining a urine sample or am I thinking of something else? She also said there was no sign of parasites in the blood. So the next thing would be to send him to a specialist to find out what is causing the anemia. I asked if a blood transfusion would help. She said possibly but until they found the source of the infection she wasn't sure. Again, as in TT's case, she said she wasn't sure of my funds and didn't know how much I wanted to put into just one cat when I have so many. I don't think I once have said anything about refusing treatment for that reason.
There has not been any testing on his urine or BMs. Should that not be done as well or is that a mute thing at this point? I have asked for them to be tested for Coccidia and Giardia because I know that when it rains a few little puddles form in the sanctuary and they drink out of them.
I am taking Mew in for an upper respiratory infection (I think) tomorrow morning so will ask a few more questions then. Not sure what to ask though. I just know if there is something I can do to try to help Brownie I want to try. I don't want to cause him pain. If she feels he is in a lot of pain I may make the decision to let him go. It's just so damned hard.
Sorry for the novel. Just trying to get all the information I can remember out.
Oh, she did give him one Marzapine pill in the office on Friday. She said she would give me more tomorrow when I go in if I want them. Well duh! If it will help him have an appetite!! I will also see if she will give me a copy of his bloodwork.
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Thanks everyone for your kind thoughts. This has been tough for Brownie.
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You just can't catch a break this week, can you :sad: The vet couldn't venture a guess as to what might be going on?

Nothing to offer except s, prayers, and for Brownie!
It's gotta get better soon hazel. I now have four kitties with goopy eyes in the catuary. One more goes in tomorrow.

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It's also been a tough couple of weeks for you.
Thanks rainbow. I will survive. I just need Brownie better. :sad:
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Sorry to hear Brownie is not doing so good.

One of the first things to determine is the cause and whether it is regenerative or non-regenerative. There are several potential causes of anaemia (the 4 most common being kidney disease, parasites, injury, viral infection such as FeLk, FIV) as it is a symptom not a disease in of itself and treatment depends on which type Brownie has.

When they checked for parasites did they test a blood smear for Hemobortonella felis? This is the bacterial agent that causes Feline Infection Anaemia - not saying this is what he has, just a possibility.

Does Brownie have a warm fleecy blanket in his crate to snuggle into? One very common sign of anaemia is feeling cold, especially their feet.

Regarding iron & B12 supplements those should be discussed with the vet as to whether Brownie needs it and at what dosage, giving liver is good but supplementing with vitamins can be dangerous when not neccessary.

As for Homeopathic remedies or conventional treatments, it is best to get some more information from the blood tests first & see what is best for Brownie.

Some reading for you on Anaemia:
http://www.manhattancats.com/Article...ropoietin.html

This is geared towards cats with Anaemia and CRF but the info is the same:
http://www.felinecrf.org/anaemia.htm
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Hope you have a good visit at the vet today. Also, hope that Brownie is better. My thoughts are with you.
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that it is something easily taken care of. And four runny eyed cats too...wow, you have alot going on :sad:



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So sorry to hear about "Brownie". I do hope you find some answers for his condition. Just wondering and this may be a longshot---was Brownie tested for heartworm? Because there have been puddles in the sanctuary, maybe mosquitoes hatched from them, and they can be carriers of heartworm.

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OMG 14+,here I am adding to your multiple problems,with Tux,I am so sorry.:sad:
I know nothing about anemia in cats,or who Brownie is,but I know you will not just give up on him, hopefully the vet can give you some workable options,to save him.,he's really just a baby.
It just has to get better for you and the kitties:sad:
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Thanks for the prayers everyone. It's been a tough few days. I can only hope it gets better soon.
Catlover2 - I will phone the vet in the morning before work to see if they did a test for heartworm. I doubt they did. It's a long shot but worth it if it proves correct.
Brownie is now on Prednisone, Doxycycline and Mirtazapine. I know Prednisone is not great but in this case I don't think it matters. :sad: I am giving him till the end of the week. If I don't see some improvement I have to let him go. I don't want him suffering through more tests which may prove useless. He is just a shadow of himself.
With everything else going on with the URIs the other kitties have and the other info being tossed at me I forgot about asking for the bloodwork. So stupid! I know the vet mentioned bone marrow the other day. I am almost positive the test for Hemobortonella felis was done. The iron and B12 were actually things I read from a homeopathic web site. I was grasping at straws.
I am just at a loss. My heart is breaking. :sad:
chico - don't feel bad. I was the one pushing you. I just didn't see things going the way they did with Tux. The vet said today the outlook for Brownie was grim.
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:sad:Oh mf, I was really hoping you'd get more hopeful news. You know you and Brownie and all the kitties are in my prayers! And I meant it, you need anything give me a call!
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14+ , I am so sorry about all the sick kitties :sad: I wish I could make it all better

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