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Feeding Raw and Kibble Together
I originally posted this in Sylvie's thread introducing Bree as her latest adoption.
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I have never combined raw and kibble because i read and was told that since kibble is slower to digest, it can lead to raw food lingering more than appropriate in the digestive tract and therefore starting to spoil and breed bacteria. Raw digests quickly in dogs and hence why dogs can eat all that meat without worrying about the bacteria in it - kibble blocking the raw from properly digesting is suposedly negating dog's ability to quickly digest raw.
Thats the info i got when i was switching from raw to kibble.... personally, i am not aware of any benefits/reasons for mixing...
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For me it's just easier/more simple to feed all the dogs their RAW diet in the morning, and the kibble at night. I get confused as it is with all the supplements, meds, etc. with the four of them just feeding one type, never mind trying to mix the two! But I have always been told the same info as Masha stated. I think I would be weary to mix the 2 for this very reason...
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I commented in your first post on this topic but I'll copy it to here as well.
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I haven't had a chance to look for other accreditable sources either. I am inclined however to believe Lew Olsen since she has a PHD in nutrition.
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Longblades, have you been able to find any more information yet?
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I'd read that it was the wheat in kibble that caused the problem. I've been feeding wheat/corn/soy-free Orijen brand Acana and raw to Scruffy and he's never had an issue (except allergies..grr).
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Not really, not any good science. I've found people with science backgrounds who scoff at the idea one item of food is held up in it's digestion by another. I've found lots of folks who have mixed kibble and raw successfully for years and lots who say they had problems. I think Rainbow's Lew Olsen is the most credible in the area of feeding dogs that I've found yet.
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She could very well be right but I'd rather be safe than sorry until I've seen some research that proves otherwise .
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A lot of people here posted valuable information. Yes both foods don't digest at the same rate, and more importantly different digestive enzymes are needed to digest either food so more energy is used in trying to complete the digestive process.
The prime reason however to never mix raw food with kibble, is because ALL kibble is flavoured with rendered fats. These fats are located on the outside of the kibble and are very very very subject to bacteria growth, so if you had some kibble laying on raw meat in a warm environment, it wouldn't take very long for the kibble to start to grow unwanted bacteria. Same holds true with moisture. If for any reason your kibble gets exposed to moisture/ water overnight or for any great length of time, toss it.! Naturally when the dog becomes ill, it's the raw meat that will get the blame.... not the kibble! So please always avoid mixing the two together.
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Thank you Luckypenny and MerlinsHope for your replies.
As stated in my original post, I do not feed raw but am curious about the contoversy of this topic and since I admire and trust the knowledge of the experienced raw feeders we have here I decided to ask your opinions. Lew Olsen has her own website, a yahoo group forum and has just published a book, so she has the ability to influence a lot of people. Since there are many people who also don't know who to believe, I would appreciate if you both would contact her with your questions and/or opinions and knowledge and then let us know here. I would do it myself but since I do not have enough knowledge about raw feeding I do not have the confidence in my ability to discuss this matter with her. Her contact information is on her website www.b-naturals.com I just checked the website and her contact email isn't there anymore so I got it from one of her newsletters: lewolson at (replace with @) earthlink.net Last edited by rainbow; October 14th, 2010 at 01:18 PM. Reason: add info |
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It's not about believing. It's about understanding the nature of who and what a dog or cat is, what their origins are, and what their purpose is. With a "natural diet", always look towards Mother Nature, then you rarely, if ever, have problems. In a natural world kibble would not exist, yet dogs surely would, so would cats and a host of other animals we sequester for our own personal needs. I keep telling people this. It's not a rocket science. We have to STOP thinking like humans and START think like a dog. IF you do this all of your feeding problems will be over. Always, always, always follow Mother Nature's plan.
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Exactly how I base my food . It boils down to common sense and doing research on the needs of each species.
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another converted vet
http://beardie.net/bcca/health/articles/going_raw.shtml
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I'll be adding this link to my favourites.
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