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URGENT - Montreal - 3 GSDS urgent need rescue
Montreal SPCA has 3 urgent GSDs that will be euthanized in the next couple days - they need out ASAP. Can anyone help?
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Are these the German Shepherds he rescued from the puppymills? Are they purebreeds? How old? Fixed? I will ask around for you
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Yes they are, 3 young purebred males. We do not have much info on them, 1 is the sweetest dog ever we were told and was returned to the shelter for barking, one is a bit shy. I don't know if they post the dogs online somewhere?
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Sometimes they post their animals petfinders.I don't understand, there were so much publicity about these animals, I am sure he recieved alot of donations in too for the raid on this mill. Why is he euthanising them???
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Spreading the news....poor boys
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I don't know poodletalk and I don't see these dogs on petfinder. My understanding is that they are overfull, these dogs have been there for months, and the Montreal rescues either do not take GSDs, or are full. They are probably getting stressed being in the cages, GSDs do not do well in shelters, not that any dogs do. I don't know if barrier frustration is an issue or not, happens with all kinds of GSDs, and people generally do not want to adopt dogs that behave that way in a cage and probably do not take them out to see how they really behave.
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I Will Take One Into My Rescue I Live In Hamilton, Ontario .
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That would be great! Thank you! I have never heard of you, do you have a website? Which rescues and shelters do you work with? (To pull from shelters rescues have to give references and be checked out.)
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ll1 i just PM'D you, your mailbox is full.
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Sorry,cleared.
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Is anyone able to post a link/pictures?
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we now have 12 GSD's on the urgent list including the ones in Montreal, some of them you can see on petfinder.
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Thanks, I'll check.
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Gsd
I work at the SPCA . I cannot work with these dogs. They are overactive
( because of their 3 month saty in the cages), and they are not housebroken ( meaning they splatter their urine and feces all over the run, and u, when u approach the cage to clean it), nor do they know any mannors. This makes them very difficult to place, especially when normal house GSD are abandonned. I am happy that these dogs will be euthanised. It will end their torture. Don't blame the SPCA, blammed the puppy mills, and the poeple who buy dogs at the pet stores, who purchase from these mills. Julie
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I disagree with you Julie. These dogs have been at the SPCA for three months, for three months these dogs could have been taught to walk properly on a leash, been taught some basic obidence.Instead they were downstairs in the little kennel. Yes, I know, theirs one in adoption and 2 in the foster room. The rest are downstairs. The SPCA Montreal didn't even give Canine 14 German Shepherd she rescued the proper medical attention. I don't want to hear that the SPCA Montreal has no money for staff nor do they have enough volunteers. The SPCA Montreal is properly one of the most wealthiest SPCA'S in Canada. What was the point of them being at the SPCA Montreal and all the publicity about them when at the end they were going to be euthanised?
I had a puppymill dog for 15 years, a husky mix. She was difficult but it was rewarding to see the change in her over the years. I also have several friends who rescued "puppymill dogs" who had the same issues as these German Shepherds if not worst. What are you suggesting Julie,that all puppymill dogs should be euthanised instead of given achance. If these dogs do get euthanised, I blame the SPCA and the puppymills. Last edited by poodletalk; August 5th, 2005 at 05:04 PM. |
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I disagree. Most GSDs (and all kinds of breeds) in shelters behave the exact same way, and it is no indication if they are housetrained, and that's not a big deal any way.
I can't imagine turning down a dog for our rescue based on someone assuming the dog is not housetrained, or messy in the cage, or the fact that the dogs have no training. Rescue is not for the easy quick turn around "perfect dog", it's for the animals that need rescuing. What kind of dogs can you work with in the shelter? Quote:
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Having volunteered at shelters walking dogs and teaching them basic obedience etc.. I can tell you that MOST of the dogs in the shelters can behave the same way. The longer they are there the worse they get. There is nothing different from one breed to the other.
Unfortunately the larger breeds and a LOT of GSD's and GSDx's as well as pitties, black labs and huskies spend a lot of time in their cages or cells as I call them. This increases their behavioural problems and thus making them harder to get adopted. The solution is to take them out of their cells more often, it's no fun in there...especially when there are ten twelve or more dogs barking whining growling snarling all around you. It would make ANYONE nervous, person or animal. Imagine their environment, how sad it is! People are intimidated, don't want to take a chance, don't want to spend the time to come back several days in a row to let the dog get to know them. If you locked me in a cell 24 hours a day fed me crap food and put me in a room with a bunch of other people screaming I may just fling my feces and urine all over the walls too!! Let me out and I'd worship the ground you walk on!
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This is very sad. The poor pups. But I really get annoyed with all the SPCA bashing that goes on here. According to the financial return for the SPCA posted on the charities dpt. of the federal gov. Registered Charity Information Return: Total Revenues for year 2003 were 6 387 088$. According to SPCA montreal website, intake is at 24 000 animals annually. This would allow for a measly 266.12$/ animal expenditure; Hardly a vast sum hen it comes to the special needs cases like these pups who need experienced an knowledgeable intervention by the sounds of it.
Those qualified persons who have criticisms should go down there and volunteer their time to rehab these dogs and find them appropriate homes. Let's not forget that the SPCA does not have the luxury of turning any animals away because they are overwhelmed or they don't have the resources.. Their mandate is to take them ALL in . http://www.cra-arc.gc: information displayed below has been manually entered by the CRA from the registered charity's Registered Charity Information Return. This information has not necessarily been verified for accuracy or completeness by the Charities Directorate. Registered charities that notice problems with their online information should visit the amendment page for instructions on how to correct the information. Section D. Compensation Section E. Financial Information Section F. Other Required Information Section G. For Foundation Only Basic Information Sheet Designation Charitable Organization Fiscal Period End 2003-12-31 Registration Date 1967-01-01 BN/registration number 119219954RR0001 Telephone number (514) 735-2711 Fax number (514) 735-7448 E-mail address Web site address : Compensation includes all forms of remuneration (e.g., salaries, fees, and honoraria) and benefits (e.g., personal use of a car or office space). D1 On average, how many permanent, full-time, compensated positions did the charity have in the fiscal period? 3600 60 D2 For the five highest compensated positions indicate the number of positions in each of the following annual compensation categories. Include only those positions that are permanent, full-time positions. $1-$39,999 3700 $40,000-$79,999 3710 1 $80,000-$119,999 3720 $119,999 and over 3730 1 D3 On average, how many part-time or part-year employees did the charity employ in the fiscal period? 3800 30 D4 What was the total expenditure on compensation for part-time or part-year employees in the fiscal period? 3850 $ 404,331 D5 Did the charity compensate any of its directors/trustees or like officials, during the fiscal period? 3900 Yes D6 Except for compensation, did the charity, directly or indirectly, transfer any part of its income or assets to individuals or organizations not at arm's length to the charity? 3950 No Section E. Financial Information E1 Please attach a copy of the charity's financial statements to this return. 4000 Yes E2 May we make the attached financial statements available to the public? 4010 Yes If the charity has indicated its financial statements are available to the public and you would like a copy, please contact us. E3 Was the financial information reported below prepared on an accrual or cash basis? 4020 ACCRUAL E4 Figures are shown to the nearest single dollar. Assets Cash, bank accounts, and short-term investments 4100 $ 658,672 Amounts receivable from non-arm's length parties 4110 Amounts receivable from all others. 4120 $ 104,143 Investments in non-arm's length parties 4130 Long-term investments 4140 Inventories 4150 $ 22,166 Capital assets 4160 $ 924,539 Other assets 4170 $ 20,639 Total assets 4200 $ 1,730,159 Liabilities Accounts payable and accrued liabilities. 4300 $ 571,171 Deferred revenue 4310 Amounts owing to non-arm's length parties 4320 Other liabilities 4330 $ 331,368 Total liabilities 4350 $ 902,539 Amount included in lines 4150, 4160, and 4170 not used in charitable programs 4250 E5 Figures are shown to the nearest single dollar. Revenue Total tax-receipted gifts 4500 $ 3,475,156 Total gifts received from other registered charities 4510 Total specified gifts included in line 4510 4520 Total other gifts 4530 $ 463,869 Revenue from federal government 4540 Revenue from provincial/territorial governments 4550 Revenue from municipal/regional governments 4560 Total revenue from government 4570 Interest and investment income 4580 $ 1,668 Proceeds from disposition of assets · gross 4590 · net 4600 Rental income (land and buildings) 4610 Memberships, dues, and association fees (non tax-receipted) 4620 Total revenue from fundraising 4630 Total revenue from sale of goods and services (except to government) 4640 Other revenue 4650 $ 2,446,395 Total revenue 4700 $ 6,387,088 Expenditures (Enter all expenditures, whether or not on charitable programs) Advertising and promotion 4800 $ 2,549,416 Travel and vehicle 4810 $ 55,499 Interest and bank charges 4820 $ 74,626 Licences, memberships, and dues 4830 $ 251,179 Office supplies and expenses 4840 $ 43,939 Occupancy costs 4850 $ 109,727 Professional and consulting fees 4860 $ 390,860 Education and training for staff and volunteers 4870 Salaries, wages, benefits, and honoraria 4880 $ 1,795,930 Donated and purchased supplies and assets expensed for the fiscal period 4890 $ 151,743 Amortization of capitalized assets 4900 $ 73,674 Research grants and scholarships as part of charitable programs 4910 Other expenditures 4920 $ 183,525 Total expenditures before gifts to qualified donees 4950 $ 5,680,118 Total charitable programs expenditures included in line 4950 5000 $ 3,580,900 Total management and administration expenditures included in line 4950 5010 $ 325,933 Total fundraising expenditures included in line 4950 5020 $ 1,699,611 Total political activity expenditures included in line 4950 5030 Total other activity expenditures included in line 4950 5040 $ 73,674 Total gifts to qualified donees 5050 Total expenditures 5100 $ 5,680,118 ---------------------------------------------------------- Last updated: 2005-03-14 Top of page Important notices |
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Salaries, wages, benefits, and honoraria 4880
$ 1,795,930 Travel expenses: $55,000 Do you think other rescue groups or SPCA'S have these type of expenses in Montreal? They call them self in need of MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why are the travel expenses so high? For the board of Directors to feel up their gas tanks? They should feel ashame of themselves after taking this huge amount of money for their salaries! Majority of the salary money is going to the DIRECTORS...I doubt it's going to anyone else. Where are these 24000 animals that they save annually? I went to the SPCA Montreal the other day, and saw 20 dogs avaiable for adoption. I guess most of the animals are in his freezers or the rescues groups in Montreal are taking them and he's counting them as his own rescue. Theirs NOTHING wrong with the animals at the SPCA Montreal...I just don't agree with the management. |
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Most if not all people posting are rescues who do rescue from SPCAs.
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Um....
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Now, that's a nice profit. Looks like they don't even spend $266 on every animal. |
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