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Makes sense - nice dog no doubt, but lacks the bulldog trait. Completely different beasts here
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Certainly, other breeds don't share the conformation traits of bulldogs, but the OP sounded more interested in temperament.
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Oh, this is silly! How many 'exceptions' do you need to hear about before being convinced that breed standards as to temperament mean very little. Dogs are individuals as much as people are. We have 8 setters, not all of them typical of the standard.
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"Up until recently I have always wanted a Bulldog. Not only do I find their appearance great, but those I've known have always had highly appealing personalities." I know exactly what the OP means - you just need to know the breed I just don't see a setter fitting the bill is all. I thought a Sharpei might be good, but the OP has reservations on health and breeding ethics - where the Sharpei fails miserable (IMO) as well, just like the bulldog. |
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Have you had many setters?
Never mind.... I was just offering the OP a new direction to look in. It's amazing where you can lose your heart once you open your mind to a new direction. You seem to be set on stereotyping, brecker, but the world isn't all black and white. I predict the OP will find a soul mate in an unexpected place and wish him or her all the luck in the world!
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HRP makes a GRRRReat point.
Just because your particular dog brecker fits the breed standard exactly, does not mean that all purebreds will or should act according to the standard. The standard is for people who show dogs. They take great pains to ensure that the look and behaviour matches the standard as closely as possible. and they represent WAY WAY less than 1% of dog owners. Most dog owners know little about what the breed is supposed to act, so THEY themselves influence the dog's behaviour by how THEY interact with the dog. Sure herding dogs were meant to herd, but now that they have nothing to do (with most pet owners) new behaviours emerge and the standard is less accurate for that couch potato herding dog. Will some purebreds act according to the breed's standard in some ways? Yes, probably. Will doing this research beforehand help in making a good choice. Yes it will. But to suggest that these standards are anything more than a guideline, imo, is very naive and discounts the whole 'nurture' part of the nature/nurture debate.
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Nothing is grey, but you have to be open to it as it does infact exist. Let me give you a very quick example if I may. I rescued now a few GSD guard dogs. One had been 'guarding' for 10 years. The other is a young 1 year old GSD, and his mom - again both guard dogs. Never one of these dogs bite, have aggression issues, herd etc... they are all soft, gentle dogs. This is totally off topic I understand however relevant at the same time. |
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I haven't met a purebred dog that didn't "ACT" in some way shape or form like it genetically was made to. The OP is not going to find a golden retriever with the character traits of a bulldog. Find me a border colie that's doesn't "act" like a border colie? My spaniel ran through bushes, my rotty protected, and my bully is a quintessential bully. I get your point, lets not start to brush all dogs with the same "trait" brush just yet. Last edited by brecker; September 1st, 2009 at 12:58 PM. |
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So now a person cannot "stereotype" pure-bred dogs? When did this happen? I must have been sleeping the last 100 years.
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You're much older than you come across on the internet
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Brecker, I think you should've stopped at "I get your point,"....
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Where do I get these rose coloured glasses people seem to be wearing?
Yes your GSD's are not nipping, guarding, herding, black and tan dogs (all white, or even black), they are small mules wearing costumes that can talk bullfrog. |
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A retriever is the "best" dog at retrieving.
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A Saluki is the fastest and best "seeing" dog in the world. And will probably chase anything that moves.
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Ok, WHAT? Please tell me that you just don't know an incredibly inappropriate "joke" when you tell one...
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nope.
Did I prove my point yet? It's a strong case that I'm right in ALL statements. |
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what are we afraid of?
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SingedbytheAsianwhoflunkedenglishduetopoorsentance structure. |
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The dangers are people getting dogs that they really have no idea what they are getting. That's the danger!
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And I don't even understand what point you're attempting to make.
Let it go. You continue taking this thread off topic and discounting a lot of great information that knowledgable people have already shared with you. Quote:
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like you are doing....
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This thread has run it's course and will now be closed.
The racist 'joke' statements are in poor taste and will be deleted. Do not make these types of statements again brecker; consider this a warning and do NOT respond to this in an open forum...by PM only. If/When the OP comes back please PM me and I will reopen the thread. Thx Marko
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So... Did you choose a dog?
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