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Old February 28th, 2013, 07:11 AM
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I have a Belgian Malinois, not pure bred however, he is the mirror image of his father who is purebred. These dogs are high maintenance. I wish I would have researched this breed before purchasing otherwise I would have not done so. Now we are family and he has an adopted brother who takes care of this puppy. We are beginning agility classes and it appears that he may attend doggy daycare. What is frustrating because he is so hyper all dogs attack him and he goes balistic when he sees other dogs and should they sniff automatic fight and moses does not understand he is all over the other dog like a fly on poo and that angers the other dog. Now there is another issue and she is extremely friendly yet when the 3 of us walk by her gate I used to be able to pat her his tempermant has caused this gentle giant to react and growl now I am unable to even touch her. Moses also has a nipping problem and thru advisement I have been given the proper procedure on how others as in humans should approach him not helping. if anybody has any suggestion please help me pulling out hair
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Old February 28th, 2013, 08:47 AM
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I have to ask, has this dog received any obedience training and were you an active participant in the training?
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Old February 28th, 2013, 10:22 PM
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How old is this dog? He sounds like a reckless teenager.
Is he neutered?
How big is his vocabulary?
How much do you engage him every day? Or is he in recess to do as he pleases most of the time?
How well does he listen - in the house? Outside? At distances? With distractions?

This is an incredibly smart animal and has a huge work ethic (he should be able to stay on task a long time). This requires that you have a lot of work and responsibility to create success. He is also the kind of dog that could change your life. When you really step up to the plate and he is given a chance to show you how incredible he can be - you could have an amazing relationship.

The picture you present is so much bigger than his energy with other dogs. It's about his place in your life, his education, his self control, and he needs to be in the habit of listening to you and looking to you for advice, which means that you need to spend lots of time with him - teaching, practicing, and adding higher levels of distraction to get higher levels of impulse control and obedience.

Every time he gets into a fight it is failure, so you need to set him up for success by using these opportunities as teaching moments.
He needs to learn about personal bubbles (go to the podcast we did a few months ago). Everyone has a personal bubble and he is oblivious about it. It starts at home - does he respect your space and energy? Can you ask him to go out of a room and he stays out? For how long? Can you have people in a room jumping around and acting crazy and he can maintain self control and NOT jump all over them?

You should teach him how to approach other beings calmly. Establish bubbles around tons of things: toys, bones, his food, at thresholds, people, dogs, cats, etc. Practice approaching dogs that you know are not going to overreact. Have the other dog sit/stay while you heel your dog in a square (not a circle) around the other dog. As he is successful you can change the approach from different angles as you build towards walking right up to another dog and he doesn't react, but stays beside you calmly on a loose leash. From there you can work towards calm greetings. But if he can't be calm 30 feet away from another dog then it isn't going to get any better as you get closer. So you have to begin at distances that he can stay calm in.

Teach him how to play with other dogs just like you teach your children how to play properly, and how to back him off if his energy gets too high. You should be able to say "easy" or "gentle" or "enough" as his signal to calm down NOW! This takes awareness on your part to see the changes in his energy so you can slow him down proactively. You can even start by teaching him how to play with you and give it words like "let's play" and "easy" to mean bring your energy up and take it down.

Can your agility teacher recommend a good obedience class? A good socialization class?
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Old March 1st, 2013, 10:32 AM
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How many different posts are you going to make about this same poor little, misunderstood puppy? This is not fair to all the good folks here who gave you valuable advice in your other, many threads. No matter how you spin it the answer is still going to be about the same, training for you and the pup.

Here is a link to the same question posed the day before.

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Old March 1st, 2013, 02:49 PM
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I am concerned about the puppy nipping people , if the puppy was to nip a child in their face it could do really hurt the child.

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Old March 3rd, 2013, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by marko View Post
I have to ask, has this dog received any obedience training and were you an active participant in the training?
He is starting agility classes and I have taught him quite allot. I had not been aware of this breed but we are attached and that is that. I am working with an dog behaviourial specialist. I have been doing everything correctly he is by no means bored. I dislike all these remarks saying that I never reply when in fact I do. This breed is high maintenance had I known I would have not purchased him. He is a loving member of our family meaning his adopted brother Harley. Moses is going to outshine all the other dogs in his classes because mommy has taught him how to jump over items and he loves to run. To comment on someone's post this breed absololutely may not be neutered until at least 10 months of age that is the earliest. There were studies done and if I should do that before then he is going to develop hip dysplasia. thank you Marko

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