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Old August 10th, 2010, 07:06 PM
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Unhappy Update-Nanook is in the hospital again

The night before we were to leave for holidays Nanook had another seizure. He went 5 weeks without one, then it just came out of nowhere. No signs this time at all. I guess I am feeling blessed that it happened as we were scheduled to board him the following morning. Had we boarded him, he may not have made it.

That was a week ago last Sunday. We took him to the vet the following morning and they kept him for the day. They completed blood serum/titer tests for Neospora/Toxoplasmosis/Crypto. All but the Toxo came back negative and they expect the Toxo to be negative as well. The vet called and said there was no seizure activity and as far as he can tell, Nanook is a bright eyed, happy, healthy puppy except for the seizures and said they were just stumped and ready to call it idiopathic epilepsy. He said the next seizure they would start him on Pheno.

We had a vet visit yesterday (for Thorin-he has bloody diaarhea and is throwing up bile). They rechecked Nanook and the vet was so happy... they think they finally figured out what's going on with the seizures. She had conferred with an internal specialist, went over everything in Nanooks file and determined he still has sterile meningitis. Turns out that he should have been on steroids for minimum 6-8 months with a very gradual weaning. Our vet did not realize that. She has now put him on a 60 mg dose (30 mg 2xdaily) for the first month, then will gradually lower it over the next 5-7 months. We were ecstatic!

We got home last night... he had a seizure. This one was different as in he did not foam at the mouth, it was a hard seizure but the Ictal phase was short compared to normal. He started coughing and drooling everywhere. I went on the internet and searched for coughing/seizures and was horrified. He had all the signs of Pulmonary Edema. We immediately rushed him to the hospital (30 mins away). They checked him and said they wanted to keep him over night. They called about midnight, said he had another seizure and this time vomited. They said his breathing was rapid and labored so they did a chest x-ray. They are worried that he not only may have Pulmonary Edema, but may have also aspirated stomach contents into his lungs. They put him on Lasix, waited 12 hours and did another x-ray with no visible improvement. Gave him another dose of Lasix and will be doing another x-ray. They said now, they aren't sure it's Pulmonary Edema and could be any number of things and want to do a transtracheal flush but are torn. They want to start him on antibiotics "in case" he did aspirate stomach contents or it's pneumonia of some sort but said that would hinder the transtracheal flush results.

We're just so tired. Physically and emotionally. We're not going to put him down unless they say there is nothing else that can be done, but we're struggling to meet the costs at this point. We're up to just over $7,000 and still nothing definitive. They keep telling us there's hope for him, then something else happens. Please forgive the length of the post, I just really needed to vent. Living somewhere you don't know people and have no family makes things alot tougher
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Old August 10th, 2010, 07:23 PM
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vent all you want. we all understand the frustration you are going through.
being away from family when things are going badly is really hard, been there done that, but it does teach us to stand on our own 2 feet and makes us stronger in the long run.
hope they figure out whats wrong and he comes home soon
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Old August 10th, 2010, 08:19 PM
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Oh, no, Robyn. I know how awful it is to have so much go wrong and not have the answers you need. Hang in there!

Prayers and for the little tyke--and some for Thorin, too! I hope they're both feeling better soon.

And if you need to vent, you go right ahead--we're here for you
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Old August 10th, 2010, 08:56 PM
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omg I'm so sorry they still don't know what's going on with Nanook tests , waiting and $$ are the worse.

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Old August 10th, 2010, 09:05 PM
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As everyone above has stated, vent away Rgeurts! We're here to listen, give support and hopefully someone soon will come along with any suggestions or answers for you.

I'm very sorry to hear of Nanook's situation but hope he will be on the road to recovery soon!

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I'm sorry that Nanook is still having troubles

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I am so sorry to hear about Nanook. I hope the vet can figure out what is wrong with him and get him better!

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Old August 11th, 2010, 07:58 AM
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OMG,I am so very sorry
Poor little Nanook,you and DH...
I don't have any advice or answers,we can only hope there is a solution for the little one and you.
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Old August 11th, 2010, 10:37 AM
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Thank you all so much for the support and kind words. Hubby and I can't have kids, so our furkids mean the world to us. Most people that know us think we're nuts and should have let him go when it first started, but we just can't do it, not as long as he still plays and is happy. So not alot of support or understanding for either of us. Just makes it alot tougher.

We talked last night and decided to ask them to do the transtracheal wash prior to giving him an antibiotic. They said if it's just pneumonia or pulmonary edema and he responds to antibiotics then we would be wasting $600-$700. I asked again if it's not what they think (and it hasn't been up to this point, so a reasonable thought on our part) and he doesn't respond then will they still be able to complete the wash. They said yes, but chances are they wouldn't get anything from it
So I told them it didn't make sense to go that route and we would probably not be saving money because they will still charge us for a surgery that may not yield any results if he doesn't respond and may cost us even more to find out what's wrong and possibly cost him his life. So they said if we didn't mind paying for the surgery, it would be a good idea to do it prior to giving the antibiotic and then send the fluids in for culture.

They said the fluid was very "odd" and dirty, and are interested to see what grows. They think it is some kind of bacterial or fungal infection that he may have had this whole time and said it may have been contributing to seizures due to lack of oxygen? You'd think they would have heard something wrong with his breathing in all the exams he's had
He has always panted excessively, coughed and breathes fast. I guess maybe they just attributed it to his being sick overall (round worms, neospora, giardia and meningoencephalitis) and then being on steroids. Who knows. Anyway, at least now they will hopefully find out what's wrong with our baby and be able to treat it
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I hope they can culture something useful from the fluid! More s and heading your way, Robyn.
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Old August 11th, 2010, 03:49 PM
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Robyn,how very,very frustrating
I know there is not one person here,who thinks you are crazy for doing all you possibly can to save sweet Nanooks life.
I hope they can come up with a definite diagnosis for the poor little guy,so he can be back to his old self soon
I also hope Thorin is doing better...
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