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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:18 PM
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I did up a bit of home cooked recently, frozen veggies, some fresh veggies also, meat and organs, and blended it all up to take out the chunks. A bit of yogurt and it was set to go. But if you don't feel up to that (or have time heaven knows) I'd go ahead and try wetting the kibble a bit and microwaving it then setting it out. It should soften up okay. Bless you for saving another one BM.
I can do that. I will make the time. Where there is a will there is a way right? How about the age though? Would too much protein be harmful? I am so not savvy on this level.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:19 PM
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Don't add raw to the ground-up stuff unless the kibble was grain-free...
I have Acana so it should be ok.....right?
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:27 PM
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You know, I'm not too much up on that really, but my older girl is 12 and she eats the EVO Red Meat which is like 42% protein plus I add on fresh meat every meal (2x per day) sometimes cooked chicken or liver or hearts (chicken liver and hearts are sooooo cheap out here). From what I hear lately the higher protein for older dogs is actually good for them, or so I've read. Oh yeah, I put brown rice in it too. But I didn't keep making it as my younger dog (who has lots of allergy issues got the runs when I fed it to her - apparently my cooking makes my dogs sick!)
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:33 PM
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I have Acana so it should be ok.....right?
I just googled the ingredients for the Adult version...it's not grain-free (oats and rice in the first 5)...I would not add raw to this food.
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Are you trying to make it more palatable, easier to eat, or to get some weight on her?
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:38 PM
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Are you trying to make it more palatable, easier to eat, or to get some weight on her?
Just easier to eat and also to be more cost effective. I have been feeding Merrick can only and 2 dogs on this is killing me.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:40 PM
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If you wanted to go raw you could grind up meat/organ and add bone meal...no need to worry about dental benefits of whole meat/bone chunks with this one. I'm not sure what the bone meal would cost, but you could probably get a nice butcher to do the grinding for you...
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Ben-Max,I cannot add anything about what to feed her,just wanted to say she's a lucky little girl that you found her
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:50 PM
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Ben-Max,I cannot add anything about what to feed her,just wanted to say she's a lucky little girl that you found her
Thanks Chico2. I just want to do whatever is right. I have nil experience with food, the elderly without teeth. And I certainly don't want to sound cheap about spending the money on the food, but it will bust me, so I need some ideas.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:52 PM
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If you wanted to go raw you could grind up meat/organ and add bone meal...no need to worry about dental benefits of whole meat/bone chunks with this one. I'm not sure what the bone meal would cost, but you could probably get a nice butcher to do the grinding for you...
I think I could 'charm' the butcher. (the things you do for your animals)!

Na - I don't think dental benefits is in the equation for this little gal.
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could you supplement a bit with COOKED meat/organ along with the kibble? No harm there...not as nutritious, but...at least no tummy upset
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I think I could 'charm' the butcher. (the things you do for your animals)!
ya, just go in all like:

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could you supplement a bit with COOKED meat/organ along with the kibble? No harm there...not as nutritious, but...at least no tummy upset
Ok - I like this better. Indeed I could do that. Do you boil? Can I also use ground beef or chicken as well or am I going silly with this?
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ground beef, chicken, turkey or pork would make your life a lot easier for prep, and they're all good muscle meats. Go for lean or medium beef (don't want too much fat). Boil definitely. You could boil the organs too (ew).
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:59 PM
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ground beef, chicken, turkey or pork would make your life a lot easier for prep, and they're all good muscle meats. Go for lean or medium beef (don't want too much fat). Boil definitely. You could boil the organs too (ew).
Another question if you don't mind...can I add rice?
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cooked, yep.

just be mindful that cooking the meat does destroy some of the nutrients in there, so you wouldn't want to feed all cooked meat (IMO, I know some people feed their dogs diets of 100% cooked meat, veg and rice/grain).

There's gotta be some folks here who do homemade cooked diets who could advise better...I'm a lazy raw feeder (thaw, chop, "plunk", there's your chicken leg Gracie!) , it's so much easier!!!
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Very interesting thread and one I am in need of myself.
First off, thank you BenMax for saving yet another.
I am reading with interest some of the things members are telling you to feed. My Keesha is 15 years old, has very few teeth left, can't be put under to pull what is left because she has epilepsy so I have to watch what I feed her. So far she has no problem with small kibble.

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Old August 17th, 2009, 06:40 PM
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Benmax.

I have heard that some kibble should not be soaked.
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Kibble is actually loaded with bacteria and potential mold toxins that multiply rapidly when moistened. If she eats it all in one sitting, it's not so bad, but I wouldn't leave it out for more than 20 mins.
Yes Breeze , you can soak kibble , but like sugarcatmom said , you can't leave it too long.

BM , I was thinking , for the raw , with not enough teeth , she might have a hard time with it.

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Old August 17th, 2009, 07:21 PM
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Very interesting thread and one I am in need of myself.
First off, thank you BenMax for saving yet another.
I am reading with interest some of the things members are telling you to feed. My Keesha is 15 years old, has very few teeth left, can't be put under to pull what is left because she has epilepsy so I have to watch what I feed her. So far she has no problem with small kibble.

Sorry to threadjack.
You did not threadjack at all - it's all relevant and I am sure that others may have the same problems/questions and want some insight.

Anyways - I may be the biggest 'jacker' on Pets....so now everyone has an opportunity to 'get back'
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You did not threadjack at all - it's all relevant and I am sure that others may have the same problems/questions and want some insight.

Anyways - I may be the biggest 'jacker' on Pets....so now everyone has an opportunity to 'get back'
now BM if everyone you ever jacked posted on here, this would be one loooong thread.

k now seriously, when my moms one pupper lost teeth with age, we fed her cooked ground beef and rice, or ground chicken and rice. For a small dog it makes several meals, you can freeze it and just heat it at meal time.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 07:42 PM
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now BM if everyone you ever jacked posted on here, this would be one loooong thread.

k now seriously, when my moms one pupper lost teeth with age, we fed her cooked ground beef and rice, or ground chicken and rice. For a small dog it makes several meals, you can freeze it and just heat it at meal time.
True enough Aslan - and we could start a new jack the joy thread. See I just threadjacked it again...

I think you and others are right. I believe that this is the best economically for me and it will be good for her to. I don't even know what her medical status is right now so I don't know if she will live long or not. I just want her pain free and to eat yummy stuff. I want the old gal to 'live it up' and know that she will always have food, live the rest of her life without pain and to be comfortable. She's pretty cool! I just want her to feel like she hit gold.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 07:48 PM
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jack the joy, woooohooooo.

ummm can you adopt me too., seriously a lb of ground beef is what 4 to 5 dollars, plus the rice, and its a full weeks worth of meals if not more, you can add some veggies or fruit.
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jack the joy, woooohooooo.

ummm can you adopt me too., seriously a lb of ground beef is what 4 to 5 dollars, plus the rice, and its a full weeks worth of meals if not more, you can add some veggies or fruit.
I totally asked for that one!

You are right - it sounds like a plan. I can do this and she will enjoy it I am certain. Thanks everyone.

If anyone has any other suggestions please keep the thread going.

If anyone wants to threadjack - go for it. The more opportunity to explore this the better.
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seriously a lb of ground beef is what 4 to 5 dollars, plus the rice,
1 lb of lean ground beef when not on sale is 2.29$



5 lbs of meduim is a total of about 10.00$

10lbs of meduim is a total of 19. something

at the butchers
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1 lb of lean ground beef when not on sale is 2.29$



5 lbs of meduim is a total of about 10.00$

10lbs of meduim is a total of 19. something

at the butchers
This sounds reasonable. Thanks Breeze.
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there you go Benmax, Breeze is super shopper. Damned if i'd know that stuff. Rice is inexpensive. You could add plain yogurt sometimes too for her poor tummy.
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there you go Benmax, Breeze is super shopper. Damned if i'd know that stuff. Rice is inexpensive. You could add plain yogurt sometimes too for her poor tummy.

na I just know cause I have to buy it for Bree
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Hopfully the ground beef and rice will work
Cant wait for pics!

Is it just me? Or does it sound like this senior yorkie x might be where shes supposed to be? Seriously, she sounds like a fit.. And you sound as if your smitten over her...
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If you're considering the raw route, you can always by large cuts of meat and grind it at home yourself (much cheaper, leaner, and less costly). Add 5-10% organs, and instead of bones, you can add bone meal powder (available at Tau in Brossard for about 11$ bottle) or you can add 1/2 tsp of crushed eggshell per pound of meat. It would take you about an hour to prepare a month's worth of meals for the little gal. At 20lbs, she would likely need less than 1/2lb of meat per day.

If you're interested in home cooking...I have a book with some recipes that might interest you.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 08:29 AM
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If you're considering the raw route, you can always by large cuts of meat and grind it at home yourself (much cheaper, leaner, and less costly). Add 5-10% organs, and instead of bones, you can add bone meal powder (available at Tau in Brossard for about 11$ bottle) or you can add 1/2 tsp of crushed eggshell per pound of meat. It would take you about an hour to prepare a month's worth of meals for the little gal. At 20lbs, she would likely need less than 1/2lb of meat per day.

If you're interested in home cooking...I have a book with some recipes that might interest you.
We seriously need to talk. I am so unsure about what route to take.
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