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Nature's variety Raw instinct (42% protein):
Calcium (min): 2.49% Phosphorus (min): 1.43% Vitamin E (min): 128.6 IU/kg Vitamin C* (min): 50 mg/kg Orijen: Protein 40.0% (min.) Fat 16.0% (max.) Carbohydrate 16.0% (min.) Moisture 10.0% (max.) Fiber 3.0% (max.) Calcium 1.6% (min.) Phosphorus 1.4% (min.) And the quest continues... |
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notice how they all say "min"... so in reality the levels could be much higher, and we have no way of knowing
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Yeah, they all say that. I don't know... Still the only food that I would trust completely (or as completely as possible, judging by the ingredients and the what we can find out) is the TO.
If I could, I'd get the TO Dakota Bison: PROTEIN: 26% FAT: 16% FIBER: 3% MOISTURE: 9% Kcal/kg: 3,680 OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS: 3.8% OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS: 1.4% CALCIUM: 1.4% PHOSPHOROUS: 1.1 http://www.timberwolforganics.com/product_p/db.16.htm |
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The evo is also really high ash (around 13%). Isn't ash supposed to affect the kidneys too?
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i dunno anything anymore... sigh.
just thankful i'm feeding raw to eliminate most of the guesswork... we're slowly phasing out the kibble for dakotah to about 25% of his diet on average. but for those who can't or don't want to feed raw or home-cooked, yeah it's a very tricky ground to tread on, what's a person to do with all the contradictory information floating around? who to trust?? i'm off to the butcher's now to get ground beef and beef hearts... i can't say it's cheap but it's the price for my peace of mind, y'know?
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Yes,the ash affects the kidneys as well. The ash content in EVO RM is 9.77%. Too bad Orijen didn't have one that isn't chicken based as their calcium/phosphorus levels aren't as high. If you want higher protein than the DVP fish and sweet potato why don't you just add some extra meat to it? |
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I was doing the math in my head and even if I use Evo as a supplement, it buggers everything up. Like DVP fish and sweet potato (vice versa) is too low protein and fat, so Evo RM would balance that out. But then DVP is well balanced as far as the vitamins and minerals and stuff goes, and Evo would just through that off. Like if I do half and half, the calcium and phosphorus would still be too high. I think I'm back to square 1, hoping that TO comes to Montreal. Soon! On the up side, it was the fish oil that was causing the drinking. |
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I'm with Prin.. This 4 way split of barking (almost gone though and I won't buy anymore SG weirdness) NV, DVP and EVO RM isn't my game plan either.. I'm not sure what I'll do when it's mainly gone, but I figure a month or to of this hopefully won't screw up Cider's body though lord only know what issues her parents had
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I think Orijen is the best of the high protein foods as well, but, I'm a tad confused. I thought you didn't want anything to do with TO because of the lousy customer service.? And, it is definitely lousy. You liked DVP fish and sweet potato so why not just add some extra meat for the protein? Last edited by rainbow; October 7th, 2006 at 09:55 PM. |
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Sorry I forgot that bit- adding meat to the DVP would be hard simply because I don't really have much meat in the house ever... (not in the budget these days). TO's customer service sucks (REALLY), but their food is the only one that seems balanced all around. And they did actually call woofers and got the ball rolling to get their food in there... It's a start, no?
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if woofers can have the stuff on a constant supply, then you won't have to deal with TO,s sucky customer service, it sounds ideal! only... will that happen?
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Hopefully. Woofers was getting some pre-ordering sampley stuff soon... I just have to keep on them about it. If they can be the ones dealing with the customer service, then everything's good.
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Ok, so I posted a question about Phosphorous and EVO on a boxer board, where they highly recomend Evo. Here's the responce I got....it makes sense, no?
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I feel like the more I know, the less I know
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seriously, this is like complicateder than any class I've taken!!
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Umm.. I don't know about that post... The first two links don't work. The third is a "pick and choose" article (where the "author" picks and chooses the "facts" to support his/her theory), and the 4th is the one Techno posted already, which was discussed a bit (most of the info there was indirectly all taken from one study from the netherlands), the 5th says this:
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kibble: astronaut food for dogs!
seriously... would it be too much to ask the petfood companies to adhere to a few simple, honest standards?...
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Yep. Apparently it is.
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[QUOTE=Scott_B;295434]
i wonder how this handsome bully looks like now. Any recent pics scott? |
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Handsome....yes but, he's not a bully.
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isn't a bullmastiff a "bully"? from the bully breed...
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Bullies are a lot of things..
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I just don't like the term "bully" for any "bull breed".
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Sorry Rainbow, thats what most bullmastiff owners will refer to them as. bullies. We don't (at least most of the bullmastiff owners I know) call them mastiffs as thats a bread all by itself. Prin pretty much has it down, any of the bull breeds seem to get the bully name. I understand what you mean though about the term "bully", but imo, thats just reading too much into things.
Anyways, I don't have any good recent pictures. I'll see what I can come up with though later. He hasnt grown much. Only 118lbs.
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