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Old January 25th, 2009, 02:48 PM
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Multilobular tumor of the bone, Canine

I have a 3 year old Border Collie Cross, Buddy, who has just been diagnosed with multilobular tumor of the bone. He presented with a tumor on the top of his skull, taking approximately 7 months to grow. I brought him in to the vet and he has since had the tumor removed. The vet is quite certain that this tumor will grow back, as it has a high recurrence rate. The histology report mentions that this type of tumor is "Curable" with removal of parts of the skull that are affected. The removed skull will be replaced with a wire-mesh to protect the brain I have been looking everywhere for information on this type of surgery and cannot find anything. I would like to know if this surgery would allow my little boy to have a NORMAL puppy life, what the surgery entails, what possible complications are etc- I love my guy so much I want to do what is best for HIM! I have another dog and the two love to run, play and roughhouse together... I would like to know if they would still be able to do this....

If anyone has any type of information on this surgery I would be so grateful...I would like to know what my options are so that I can quiet my mind...

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Old January 25th, 2009, 02:55 PM
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I'm so sorry you are going through this.
We have a vet who checks in regularly, maybe someone could flag this thread for him.
How is Buddy doing, after the surgery?
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Old January 25th, 2009, 02:57 PM
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I'll PM Dr Lee.

for Buddy, amber083! Welcome to the board...wish it were under happier circumstances!
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Old January 25th, 2009, 03:00 PM
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Buddy is doing well after the surgery, except for a seroma (fluid build up). He has some pressure bandages on, and my vet has recommended that he be crate bound for the next few days, as he keeps shaking his head causing more fluid build up. This part is hardest for me, as I just want to spend all my time with him given the news we've just gotten. He should be getting his staples out on Tuesday, provided that the seroma goes away.
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Old January 25th, 2009, 03:05 PM
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's for buddy.

I don't have any info for you, i'm not familiar with the tumor Buddy has. Just wondered if maybe there are other names for it... something else you could try searching for?
have you looked here http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?
My vet recommended it as a good reference manual.
or try contacting a vet school... they might be able to give you the name of specialist?

Sorry I can't help more. Just my and for Bobby and lot of 's for you. for a long and healthy life!
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Old January 25th, 2009, 03:12 PM
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Thanks otter- I have checked out the website that you posted...lot's of information on the condition, but unfortunately nothing on the surgery. The other name I was given for this condition is "Multilobular Osteochondroma". I am now starting to wonder if this surgery is a relatively new technique that doesn't yet have a lot of information on it? I am so frustrated wishing I could research my options!!
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Old January 25th, 2009, 03:31 PM
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there are a couple of links on this page http://www.dog-health-guide.org/cani...onetumors.html
I haven't had a chance to check them out.
Try a search for "canine skull surgery" or "cranioplasty" for some other ideas?

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Old January 25th, 2009, 10:56 PM
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...diagnosed with multilobular tumor of the bone...The histology report mentions that this type of tumor is "Curable" with removal of parts of the skull that are affected. The removed skull will be replaced with a wire-mesh to protect the brain I have been looking everywhere for information on this type of surgery and cannot find anything...
This is not a typical case. I do not know that you are necessarily going to find a lot of reliable literature that is going to be relevant to your pet's case. I recommend that you contact a University or specialty hospital and consult with a veterinary surgical specialist.

A good note: the writers of the histology report are NOT going to print something that is inaccurate. They can be help liable for printing accurate medical information. Also in human medicine, placing wire-mesh plates to replace skull openings is not uncommon and works well.

Based upon what you have written, I would strongly recommend that you pursue this with a specialist. There may be some good options for your pet. I would not wait for a long period of time however. Best of luck. Please keep us updated.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 11:57 AM
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Thanks Dr. Lee- I appreciate you taking the time to look at this and give me a little bit of input. I am going to meet with my vet tomorrow morning to find out some more information from him and then get the name of the surgeon he has recommended so that I can consult with her.
My biggest stressor right now is the not knowing!

Thanks again- I will keep everyone updated on what I find out!
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Old April 25th, 2012, 06:15 PM
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my 12 year old aussie was diagnosed with an MLO a year ago. I'm wondering what Buddy's status is? did he have the cranial surgery? does he have any symptoms from the mlo?
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 08:24 PM
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Red face My 12 year old flat coat retriever mix has an mlo

Ravens' MLO is on the back of her skull. Her neuro exam did not show any signs of cerebellar compression yet, but I'm worried it is fast growing. They can't tell how fast unless they surgical biopsy a part. Surgery is an option but the tumor is dangerously close to the dorsal longitudinal sinus so could be fatal from bleeding if the hit it. We can't decide whether to do surgery or not. She's happy and loves her walks and everything now, but if we wait it could be harder to remove because it will probably be closer to the blood vessel. They could surgically debulk it but won't it just grow back soon?bthey say they grow back, but they can't say how soon because they don't know how fast it's growing. I wouldn't have expected her to live too many more years but if I can keep her happy for a year or two it would be worth whatever would do that. And should I put her through the trauma of surgery? Her lab results show she is healthy enough for surgery but isn't it maybe too traumatic? Radiation is not proven with Mlos and would require like 20 sessions under anesthetic over 4 weeks. Mlos are not supposed to be responsive to chemo either. Can anyone help me make a decision or does anyone have any insight or ideas?
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Old February 24th, 2013, 10:53 AM
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I'm sorry you're going through this, Ravensmom. And I don't really have any hard and fast advice for you.

When we're faced with tough decisions like yours we usually start a 'benefit/cost' or a 'pro/con' list. How much time could you hope to gain by the surgery over just letting nature take its course? How much time lost in recovery and radiation treatments? Quality of life?

The bottom line, though, is that if you make your decision from the heart with Raven's best interest in mind, you can't be wrong! You'll never know how it might have turned out had you decided otherwise, so don't second guess yourself afterward. Just accept that your decision is the right one given the circumstance and enjoy your time with your girl, whatever you decide to do.

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Old February 24th, 2013, 07:11 PM
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These things are very difficult.....

If you choose to not do the surgery, there may be some alternative protocols with supplements and herbals that might help. Some traditional drugs, like prednisone or doxycycline sometimes are used in cancer, so always worth looking into those as supportive therapy too.

There are no wrong answers here, so, as HRP said, once you make your decision, move forward, accept, with love, the path that you choose.
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Old March 28th, 2013, 03:12 PM
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Update on Raven

Well thanks to everyone for their encouragement. We had the surgery done at OSU Vet Hospital. The neurosurgeon was so compassionate and helpful. She took time to answer all our questions so we could make a good decision. Raven made it through the surgery! She's doing really well. They only got 95% though, but the biopsy came back and on the mitotic scale it was a zero! So the neurosurgeon said that instead of her likely having symptoms that would be fatal within a few months she could likely live a year or two before it reoccurs! I'm not doing radiation or chemo for the rest because there does not seem to be good evidence it helps these kinds of tumors. But I have her on a homemade food diet (organic meat and greens) with supplements (omega 3s, maitake, immune boosters). I think we made the right decision. She recovered amazingly from the surgery and is back to her old self, playing and hiking.
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Ravens' MLO is on the back of her skull. Her neuro exam did not show any signs of cerebellar compression yet, but I'm worried it is fast growing. They can't tell how fast unless they surgical biopsy a part. Surgery is an option but the tumor is dangerously close to the dorsal longitudinal sinus so could be fatal from bleeding if the hit it. We can't decide whether to do surgery or not. She's happy and loves her walks and everything now, but if we wait it could be harder to remove because it will probably be closer to the blood vessel. They could surgically debulk it but won't it just grow back soon?bthey say they grow back, but they can't say how soon because they don't know how fast it's growing. I wouldn't have expected her to live too many more years but if I can keep her happy for a year or two it would be worth whatever would do that. And should I put her through the trauma of surgery? Her lab results show she is healthy enough for surgery but isn't it maybe too traumatic? Radiation is not proven with Mlos and would require like 20 sessions under anesthetic over 4 weeks. Mlos are not supposed to be responsive to chemo either. Can anyone help me make a decision or does anyone have any insight or ideas?
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Old March 28th, 2013, 11:27 PM
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Awesome update, Ravensmom! Way to go, Raven!!

Please keep us posted on her progress--and if you have pics to share, we'd love to see them!
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This is great news, definitely worth celebrating, and wonderful to have that non-existent mitotic index! Congratulations
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 10:38 PM
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MLO in my 7 Year Old Pit Bull

Hello, my 7 year old Pit Bull has been diagnosed with MLO in her skull. When the local vet tried to remove the mass formation on top of her head it revealed the hole in her skull and another mass right underneath it. The neurologist suggested MRI for better diagnosis. Im wondering whats the best approach here and how quickly those tumors grow and cause problems? Im afraid to remove it as I have read that the excision may cause quicker metastasis and its also possible that the dog may not recover from the surgery and be the same animal. Any thoughts and comments appreciated. Those that had the surgery, can you please provide updates? Im devastatedů
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Old July 24th, 2014, 07:58 PM
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I'm so sorry for your news
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