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Old March 19th, 2014, 07:01 PM
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Cat With Diabetes - At my wits end..

Our approx. 9 year old male neutered cat was diagnosed with diabetes last summer. When diagnosed his blood was in the mid 20's. He has fairly severe neuropathy. He was started on Caninsulin and after increasing several units, he was getting big peaks and valleys in his readings but always stayed in the high teens/20's.
Our vet suggested we switch him to another type of insulin made specifically for cats that is longer lasting and supposed to reduce the peaks and valley's. It is called Pro-zinc. It has been a long struggle. We had him up to 5 units, and he was staying approx. between 15-20 during the day. We increased again to 5.5 units and now he started having huge fluxuations from the high teens down to 3-4 and back up. We went back to 5 and his numbers stay again between 15-20. Tried upping him again, and same thing huge changes. This is all over the course of many weeks and with the consultation with our vet. She is telling us to stay at 5 units. He is now getting very constipated despite being on a type of "laxative" and had to go to the vet today and he was straining really bad. Nothing against our vet, but she doesn't seem to have too many suggestions and reasoning why the huge fluxuations and I wonder how much experience she has treating feline diabetes.
We are really at our wits end and hate to see him struggle walking, getting in and out of the litter box and just collapsing on the floor exhausted. I should mention he has been on a Methyl-B12 supplement for a couple weeks but from what I read it is useless until his blood is normal.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I don't want him to suffer any longer without seeing some type of improvement.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 07:24 AM
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Refresh my memory...what does your kitty eat?
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Old March 20th, 2014, 03:01 PM
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Pre-diabetes he was on Nature's Variety canned with some dry supplemented. The vet suggested the diabetic food which my decided to try to see if it helped. It was the food they sell in the office. He would get canned twice a day with a little dry in between. There wasn't much of a difference on the diabetic food and I have heard they are not the best so we have now switched him back to the Nature's Variety.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 07:18 PM
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Pre-diabetes he was on Nature's Variety canned with some dry supplemented. The vet suggested the diabetic food which my decided to try to see if it helped. It was the food they sell in the office. He would get canned twice a day with a little dry in between. There wasn't much of a difference on the diabetic food and I have heard they are not the best so we have now switched him back to the Nature's Variety.
The prescription "diabetic" food totally sucks for sure and is a waste of money. Is he back on just NV canned, or does he still get dry as well? Which NV is it (Instinct, Homestyle)? So did all these diet changes occur while the dose was being raised? I'm wondering if rebound might be an issue, especially considering the roller coaster numbers. One way to check would be to drop the dose back to 1 unit for a couple days, testing his blood sugar every few hours if possible. You test at home, right? I can't quite tell from your post, is he getting 5 units twice a day or just once a day?
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Old March 21st, 2014, 05:33 PM
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He gets the Natures Variety morning and night. And a little bit of dry in between as he is always starving. It is the Instinct. The diet changes did happen during the time while his dose was going up, but we were careful not to do it right at the same time as an insulin change. He gets insulin twice a day, and his blood is checked 3x daily. He is getting so tired of the ear pricks. What do you mean by rebound?
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And a little bit of dry in between as he is always starving.
Any possibility you could feed him more canned instead? I always left some out for my guy.

Unfortunately the insulin you're using isn't well suited for constant snacking though. Perhaps a longer-lasting, gentler onset kind of insulin like Lantus or Levemir would suit your kitty better.

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He is getting so tired of the ear pricks.
Tasty treat rewards can go a long way to making the experience more tolerable. 100% freeze dried meat such as PureBites, Halo Liv-a-Littles or Whole Food Toppers are great for diabetics since they're low carb and high in protein.

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What do you mean by rebound?
When a cat's blood sugar goes too low from too much insulin, there's often a corresponding period of high blood sugar. More detailed info here:
http://petdiabetes.wikia.com/wiki/Somogyi_rebound
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