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Old February 21st, 2013, 05:13 PM
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what can help to clean cat's liver?

My Cow , 4 months all and my Yoshi , 8 years old at my parents are on ketoconazole since the fungal infection did not respond to topical treatments. I know that medications for funfal infections can be hard on the liver (some more than others, this is not of the most aggressive) however I am looking for something to ease their liver from the burden. I have a few weeks left in here (Mexico) and I want to do as much as I can fir the furbabies here.
Topically I ordered colloidal silver online and coconut oil. (I already tried 2 conventional treatments) What I need now is something to ease their liver.
Anyone know any auxiliary for this?
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Old February 21st, 2013, 10:36 PM
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Hi:

I haven't had much experience in fungal infections in cats, but when it comes to liver problems I have one whose liver was compromised 10 years ago and 3 or 4 times a year I have to do a liver cleanse. I have used several different manufacturers of Milk Thistle, but the best one I have found is turned out by a company called A. Vogel. I usually administer it 2 or 3 times a day. I usually mix 2 or 3 drops of Milk Thistle with 1 1/2 mL of water and administered with an eyedropper. The milk Thistle has a wee bit of a strong taste and it's really not appreciated by the cat but Missy has learned to persevere with this for treatment lasting from 10 to 14 days. If possible, add a little more water, it might make it go down easier. And I use distilled water.

I've used colloidal silver for years and have had generally good success with it both with the animals and myself. I've used it both internally and topically for burns, cuts, scrapes, and eye infections. If you're using it topically on the fungal infection I would be interested to know how it works because I haven't had a chance to use it for that application.

Here's the website of the company to give you an idea what I'm using. I hope this info will be of benefit to you.

http://www.avogel.ca/en/herbal-remed...lk-thistle.php
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 01:53 AM
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Thank you so much. This is the second time I hear about Milk Thistle, I will definitely look into that. They're healthy cats aside the fungus but I want to help them with the medication they're on. I really appreciate the input.
I'll let you know about the colloidal silver. For hard to beat cases I read the best is a super concentrated one as in 500ppm however I wasn't able to find that one here but the ones in between 10 to 30 ppm can still be used topically and I am. After 3 applications the affected areas look at least more clean so we'll see.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 12:59 PM
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I'm so mortified. Yoshi mi didn't take the medication well Im now looking for the milk thistle. im on a 1 day trip in puerto vallarta and my mom is taking good care of them. on the website we order food suplements like the silver they have milk thistle but in capsules I don't know how to give them that. but while in pvr ill look for an extract. I must find it. im so worried. why are these drugs so bad. why this just can't go away and leave my kitties healthy.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 07:52 PM
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I am sorry to hear things are not working out too well with the topical medication. I googled Ketoconazole and looked at a couple of articles I have to say I was not impressed with some of the side effects. Usually ringworm is brought on to some degree in kittens and old cats due to the immune system being compromised. Are the cats getting a good quality wet food? Raw feeding would be great but that's another story. Previous medications or vaccinations also have a tendency to compromise immune system, or maybe the kitten had the problem before you got her.

As far as the milk Thistle capsules go, I haven't had any experience with them. A person would have to know what's in them other than the milk Thistle and is the capsule able to be split into small enough servings, because if you can't make the serving small enough it will have a tendency to tax the liver even more. The cats liver is very delicate and if you're not careful you could upset it's ability to metabolize what's going on in its environment even more.

I think if I was in your place I would be putting my faith in the colloidal silver since the Ketoconazole seems to be causing such a problem. How often are you applying the colloidal silver? I think if it was me I'd be looking at at least half a dozen times a day if not more. I am enclosing a website that has a decent article on treating ringworm, and maybe there's something in that website that would be of use to you in treating the fungus. And no doubt Sandy will have some ideas on treating the liver as well.

http://www.holisticat.com/ringworm.html

Hopefully there's something in here of value to you. I wish I was able to do more. I'll be watching for updates the best of luck.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 10:49 PM
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The kitten is responding very well to the Ketoconazole (given orally) is Yoshimi who is an 8 year old adult the one who's having a hard time. She puked all day yesterday, was hidding and in pain. We just suspended it because it was just not good for her, causing more problems than the infection itself.
My cowsie is doing good, healthy, eating and playing while on Ketoconazole suspension (orally since creams did not work by themselves). He eats a lot of tuna and sardines, besides regular wet food (commercial brand).
I'm visiting in Mexico in a small city and trying to get high quality cat food like the one I use in Calgary it's just beyond chance (maybe in a big city...). However I'm feeding a lot of fish and he's growing and gaining weight.
I am going to go for something as close as possible to the thistle milk extract on the link you gave me. I saw it already in a store online. (I didn't get the capsules, don't want to chance an od). They also started today on a bit of coconut oil daily.
As I started to apply the colloidal silver I've seen for the first time real change. The injures look way cleaner, less irritated, he even stopped scratching same for Yoshi. I'm even starting to see tiny mini mini new hair growing and one of the affected spots is actually fading away. I do it 5 times a day but considering it's only a 15 ppm I need to do it more often.
I read the article and I'm 95% convinced that if I could get a hold of higher concentrated colloidal silver this thing would go away in not too long.
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