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Old August 17th, 2012, 03:07 PM
kittiesandbirds kittiesandbirds is offline
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Hi I'm new

I tried one forum once and posted a video of my brand new birds. I was immediately bombarded by negative comments about their clipped wings. The bars in the cage ect. Where I live they clip them in the store and you really have no choice. If it would have been some random posters it might not have bothered me but it was four of the people overseeing the site.

I never wrote back on that forum the vibe was too negative.

I tried a second forum, a bird forum. For a while I was amazed at the knowledge they had about birds. I have a multi pet household and 30 years experience (with vet bills) with dogs and cats. When it came to any other animal then birds the information was so ridiculous that it was sad.

I really think a forum needs a mix of people. I read the thread on here about outdoor or indoor cats. I loved the approach the way people wrote their answers. To me if a forum just perpetuates myths and does not help people come closer to understanding anything then it's useless.

I don't want to come on to a site to be humored. If I show you a picture of my Sheppard or Labrador and tell you what a great pure bred wolf he is and how he walks off leash. I expect someone to challenge me. This for the simple reason that so many animals suffer each year from people perpetuating myths about them. It saddens me to see so many people humor someone and say yes "what a lovely wolf you have".

This type of reaction hurts society. I inadvertently bought a wolf mix years back. He killed a rat with ease at six months of age. I could not believe a neighbor who told me he just killed that rat. We were talking along the edge of a lake. Later he killed the neighbors cat and didn't have a scratch on him.
At the end he got loose and tried to single handily take down a farmer's cow. He had many great qualities and in the end we signed his papers back over to the breeder who's black husky line had perished. My last memory of him was the terrible howling he was doing as we drove the 300 meter driveway to leave. It has haunted me ever since. Just a question of money. We took him in no knowing, not ready for what came. It saddens me to think of how often this plays over and over.

Many years of experience with animals should have some value. Trial and error shows us the way. I suffered a stroke some years back and had blind spots on my vision. I am not always able to express myself to the same degree. It took years to get back to where I am today. It's pretty easy to say something that will offend someone. No two people have the same experience. Even the same person at different times in their life can change opinions drastically. I fed my cats what they wanted. Bought different brands and just gave them whatever they liked. Now they may be paying the price. One has mega collin and the other was just hospitalized for such a bad tummy ache that she couldn't walk. She is home now and they said she has a bit of cholesterol. What I could tell myself of twelve years ago might have saved my cats these problems, who knows.

It's so easy on a forum to get into a debate that is sterile. Look at the question about indoor or outdoor cats. One person says indoor live longer and another replies (on the old forum) my uncle had 20 outdoor cats, they lived till 16 they never had medical problems. In my country there is no feral cats. We don't have mange here or any cat diseases because all the feral cats are caught and homed... In seconds a research on the internet tells me they have over 2 million feral cats. The cats are eating and bringing certain species to extinction...Nobody calls them on it. I really want to be a part of something that helps society and myself evolve not just a bunch of false argumentation built on a house of cards.

Well my introduction is long and without a doubt lacks structure. Like I said I had a stroke and this is as good as it is going to get for me after the long road back uphill.
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Old August 17th, 2012, 07:53 PM
Jim Hall Jim Hall is offline
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welcome I do not think any one will jump on you

The moderators here in my opinion are excellent

As for your post lacking structure. it is one of the more literate and coherent thing I have read this week.

Good luck on your recovery enjoy your chirpers
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Old August 19th, 2012, 03:56 PM
kittiesandbirds kittiesandbirds is offline
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Originally Posted by Jim Hall View Post
welcome I do not think any one will jump on you

The moderators here in my opinion are excellent

As for your post lacking structure. it is one of the more literate and coherent thing I have read this week.

Good luck on your recovery enjoy your chirpers
Thanks for responding. I guess my thread was too long for most to read, or too boring.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 05:02 PM
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Not too long for me to read. Welcome to pets. I hope that you find answers to any questions you have and I that you can contribute knowkwedge to us.

One thing that we really must have though is pictures of your pet family!
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Old August 20th, 2012, 08:47 AM
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Welcome to the forum!

Your post was well written and you'll find our members to be very smart and very generous with advice.

This forum, like many others does have hot threads...but generally they work out OK.

Hope you enjoy your stay and would love to see some pix!
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Old August 20th, 2012, 09:35 AM
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Adding my welcome to the pile!

Would love to see some pics of your critters. What kind of birds do you have? When I was a kid, my mom had an amazing African Grey parrot that was learning to talk, and we also had a pair of Peach-faced Love Birds. Wish I could have birds again, but right now I have 5 cats so it won't be anytime soon.
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