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Old June 14th, 2012, 07:12 PM
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Any suggestions? Controlling barking

I am moving in a few weeks, from a house, into a condo. I have two Dachshunds, and they do bark....a lot! I am looking for ways to help with the barking. I am tired of yelling "stop barking!" at them. Someone suggested having a newspaper handy and swatting their butts, however, I have never raised a hand to these pups nor shall they every know what it is to be swatted with a hand or anything else. I have a spray bottle with water in it which I use when they bark, it works but one of them is getting use to it and does not mind the water. I know its normal for dogs to bark, and here at the house, I don't mind a bit but when I move I am sure no one wants to hear them that often. They mainly bark when someone is at the door, which most dogs too. I just need help in training them not to bark if someone is at the door. I think they feel they need to protect me. Please don't suggest those terrible collars that spray something into their faces, not an option. Any suggestions?
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Old June 14th, 2012, 08:08 PM
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I am moving in a few weeks, from a house, into a condo. I have two Dachshunds, and they do bark....a lot! I am looking for ways to help with the barking. I am tired of yelling "stop barking!" at them. Someone suggested having a newspaper handy and swatting their butts, however, I have never raised a hand to these pups nor shall they every know what it is to be swatted with a hand or anything else. I have a spray bottle with water in it which I use when they bark, it works but one of them is getting use to it and does not mind the water. I know its normal for dogs to bark, and here at the house, I don't mind a bit but when I move I am sure no one wants to hear them that often. They mainly bark when someone is at the door, which most dogs too. I just need help in training them not to bark if someone is at the door. I think they feel they need to protect me. Please don't suggest those terrible collars that spray something into their faces, not an option. Any suggestions?
you can buy a stop barking device that you put on a wall . It will give off a sound when your dogs bark.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 09:30 PM
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you can buy a stop barking device that you put on a wall . It will give off a sound when your dogs bark.
Really? Is it a sound only they can hear or can we hear it as well. Where would I be able to purchase this, do you know?
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Old June 15th, 2012, 11:03 AM
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Really? Is it a sound only they can hear or can we hear it as well. Where would I be able to purchase this, do you know?
http://www.ultimatebarkcontrol.com/a...FQjf4AodmkqHVg


Here is one link , I bet you could find them for less money. I have seen an ad on TV for stop barking devices . Only pets will be able to hear the sound. People can't hear as good as dogs.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 09:51 PM
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My Yorkie does this as well. Even if she hears a door bell or knocking on the tv! I've tried having her sit and be quiet and if she isn't i spray her with water and say quiet! then if she does it I give her a treat. It's a work in progress. I'm also open to any suggestions.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 07:27 AM
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There's some really good info at Dog Star Daily on how to deal with excessive barking: http://www.dogstardaily.com/training/excessive-barking
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Old June 15th, 2012, 08:20 AM
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Hmm maybe some people with additional training skills can weigh in but I think it's more realistic to allow your dogs to bark a couple of times when someone is at the door - but not incessantly.

They are hardwired to protect you by barking just as you are hardwired to fight or flee when something scares you. Changing something that is hardwired in dogs (or people) is very difficult.
Just try to get a terrier to stop digging for example.

If I were you I'd work on getting them to bark just a couple of times but to be quiet when you tell them to. Just my opinion tho.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 10:17 AM
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Hmm maybe some people with additional training skills can weigh in but I think it's more realistic to allow your dogs to bark a couple of times when someone is at the door - but not incessantly.

They are hardwired to protect you by barking just as you are hardwired to fight or flee when something scares you. Changing something that is hardwired in dogs (or people) is very difficult.
Just try to get a terrier to stop digging for example.

If I were you I'd work on getting them to bark just a couple of times but to be quiet when you tell them to. Just my opinion tho.
That's exactly what I said in my post, that barking is normal and I don't mind a bit of barking (at the house here, I don't mind it at all, they bark, then its done with) its the non stop barking when someone is at the door. I don't mind that they bark, it lets me know someone is there. However, they don't stop for some time, and its that barking I would like to get under control.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 11:08 AM
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Hmm maybe some people with additional training skills can weigh in but I think it's more realistic to allow your dogs to bark a couple of times when someone is at the door - but not incessantly.

They are hardwired to protect you by barking just as you are hardwired to fight or flee when something scares you. Changing something that is hardwired in dogs (or people) is very difficult.
Just try to get a terrier to stop digging for example.

If I were you I'd work on getting them to bark just a couple of times but to be quiet when you tell them to. Just my opinion tho.
I agree, I wish my new dog would bark at least once to let me know someone is outside my house. I would use the stop barking device when the dogs are home alone so they will not drive other people nuts.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 11:31 AM
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Teach them a place command. Set up a bed big enough for both of them and teach them that every time some one comes to the door they are to run to their place and sit there quietly, for which they get treats.


Barking at a perceived intruder is normal, barking obsessively can be a learned behaviour.

Why are you against collars but ok with a device on a wall that works based on the exact same principal as a bark collar except that it is on a wall where it is actually less effective?
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Old June 15th, 2012, 11:36 AM
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Gotcha - must have misunderstood.
I like Choochi's idea.
I have also seen a sharp sound used a few years ago (I think maybe on a cesar show) that immediately got some dogs to stop barking.
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Help with barking.

Good morning, I've read through a number of posts and have a couple of suggestions that may be helpful in your situation. I am a trainer and specialize in behaviour issues. The first suggestion is to think about what you want rather than what you don't want, for example, I want my dog to have some self control , instead of thinking I want my dog to stop barking.

Now that you know what you want, you can work towards achieving that. To do this start by ignoring the barking, don't look at them, don't talk to them, don't join in. When they stop say to them, good job thank you and reward* them for being quiet. If the barking happens at a window you can get between them and the window and block their access. Again, no sound, when they stop barking, reward, when they move away from the window reward. For a few days, reward randomly but often anytime they are being quiet and relaxed. After a few days spread out the rewards.

As it gets easier, delay the reward until they learn to ignore the window or noises for a few seconds, then when that's easy wait for 5-10 seconds before rewarding.

*A reward is a piece of food that is of higher value to the dogs then the distraction, noise, people, other dogs..... If the reward isn't good enough it isn't a reward.

Good Luck!!
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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:40 AM
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Good morning, I've read through a number of posts and have a couple of suggestions that may be helpful in your situation. I am a trainer and specialize in behaviour issues. The first suggestion is to think about what you want rather than what you don't want, for example, I want my dog to have some self control , instead of thinking I want my dog to stop barking.

Now that you know what you want, you can work towards achieving that. To do this start by ignoring the barking, don't look at them, don't talk to them, don't join in. When they stop say to them, good job thank you and reward* them for being quiet. If the barking happens at a window you can get between them and the window and block their access. Again, no sound, when they stop barking, reward, when they move away from the window reward. For a few days, reward randomly but often anytime they are being quiet and relaxed. After a few days spread out the rewards.

As it gets easier, delay the reward until they learn to ignore the window or noises for a few seconds, then when that's easy wait for 5-10 seconds before rewarding.

*A reward is a piece of food that is of higher value to the dogs then the distraction, noise, people, other dogs..... If the reward isn't good enough it isn't a reward.

Good Luck!!
If I had given my Standard Poodle a treat after he stopped barking he would
had barked some more to get another treat. This would had never worked with him.
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