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Old March 1st, 2012, 04:53 AM
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Floor cleaners and pet health

Hi,

I was wondering about floor cleaners and the possible adverse effects on cats, (or pets in general).
I read an article on ''wikipedia'' yesterday that said that the ''pine-sol''type of floor cleaner could be harmfull to my cats, if they walk on the floor before it is completly dry...because it is a phenol based product.
I found this article by typing ''cat'' in wikipedia, and it is in the section about poisoning...
Has any one ever heard of this?
I always used 'pine-sol' to clean my floors, and usually add a bit of javex water to it, I mop every other day.
I was just wondering if anyone has other ''home made'' alternatives that could be safer or better for the health of my cats.
I am on a budget, so I cannot afford some 20$ bottle of cleaner, so any home made alternatives are welcomed.
I have 8 cats and like to clean often, so that there are no smells in my place. So far, there has never been any!
I know there are some ecological products out there, but I also heard the contain enzymes that can be really harmfull to pets if they lick themselves after walking on the floor, so I always avoided them; they are not cheap either!
My oldest cat is 5 years old, and my youngests are turning 2 in April, so far, none of my cats seem to have any problems with this, and they do walk on the floor while it is still wet.
No one ever vomites or had loose stools, except for the occasional fur ball regurgitation, which only happens with my 3 long haired cats (Tonali, Gino and Airell).
Could it be that the adverse effects can take a long time to do their damage?
Perhaps it can damage internal organs slowly...
Could it be that the damage will be done and it would be too late when the symptoms appear?

Please help on this question, I am now very concerned about this issue, and would like to know your opinions and advice.

Thanks
Sandyrivers
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Old March 1st, 2012, 08:28 AM
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White vinegar to the rescue; mix a cup to a bucket of lukewarm water .

That's all I've been using since we have our dog and it really works; use a microfibre mop and you're set - works on hardwood, laminate, tile - you name it. If you're dealing with serious messes or feel the need for a deeper clean , use a floor steamer - just water, no harmful chemicals.
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Old March 1st, 2012, 09:07 AM
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Don't mix "BLEACH" with anything, toxic fumes........
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Old March 1st, 2012, 11:04 AM
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that said that the ''pine-sol''type of floor cleaner could be harmfull to my cats, if they walk on the floor before it is completly dry...because it is a phenol based product.
Not only that, but just inhaling the fumes from phenolic products (lysol, detol, pinesol, etc) can also be deadly to cats. And they aren't good for people either: http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/0...eaners_004.htm

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I was just wondering if anyone has other ''home made'' alternatives that could be safer or better for the health of my cats.
I second the vinegar recommendation. Cheap, effective, and SAFE! Also baking soda works well, and those micro-fibre cloths.


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Could it be that the adverse effects can take a long time to do their damage?
Yup. The toxic effects to the liver can be cummulative and you wouldn't necessarily see any symptoms until there's a significant amount of damage.

Glad to hear that you're considering safer alternatives!
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Old March 1st, 2012, 05:09 PM
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Yep yep, vinegar, water, microfibre
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Old March 1st, 2012, 08:28 PM
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Vinegar!

Hi,
I am just back from the store and got two huge jugs of vinegar! The cashier taught I was going to pickle things! Funny....

Thanks to all who helped out on this one.

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Old March 1st, 2012, 08:32 PM
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could it be too late?

Just wondering if the pine sol i used in the past could have already adversely affected my cats???
They are healthy and well for now, but would i need to take them to the vet to see if damage is already done?
If so, what tests should i ask the vet to do?

I am trying not to be paranoid here, but the more i read about this, the more terrible it sounds... my cats are my babies, so i really want to make sure they are ok.

Thanks again

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Gino Ferrero April 8th 2010 m -cat
Airell Awenn Awnfenn Ep Berrth April 8th 2010 f- cat
Katla Chilam Balam April 8th 2010 f- cat
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Old March 1st, 2012, 10:34 PM
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Just wondering if the pine sol i used in the past could have already adversely affected my cats???
They are healthy and well for now, but would i need to take them to the vet to see if damage is already done?
I think just eliminating further exposure is the key. Cats are pretty amazing at recovering from all sorts of situations so as long as their bodies have a chance to heal, they should be fine.
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