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Old June 30th, 2010, 02:06 PM
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Puppy "Temper Tantrums"

Once again, looking for some information and input from all you experienced dog owners out there.

Lately, I've noticed that Keely (our 2 pound, 10 week mixed breed puppy) has, well, what could be described as "temper tantrums."

Sometimes when we pick her up or hold her collar to attach the leash, she growls and occasionally will nip at us. Other times, she is perfectly calm when being picked up. I haven't really been able to determine exactly what causes her to get upset, but I'm assuming that sometimes she just doesn't want to be held? Unfortunately for her, I am the boss in this household! Hahaha.

We are going to puppy training classes with her and I will be mentioning this to the trainer when we go next time, but since class is canceled this week, I figured I would try to get some advice on here in the meantime.

We have been doing the "massages" with her every second day - holding a treat in front of her and then touching her ears, back, tail, etc. Trying to get her used to being picked up and handled. She seems to be doing better, but any other ideas or suggestions would be welcomed!

I'm trying just to stay calm when this happens and ignore it. But I'm not sure if this is the best response? Should I be correcting her in some way?

We have tried the 20 second time-out in the bathroom, as suggested by our trainer, but I will admit that we haven't been consistent with this because we wanted to ask the trainer again if this is the right response for this particular problem. It seems to calm her down, nonetheless.

Okay, this is getting long. Thanks in advance!
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Old June 30th, 2010, 02:32 PM
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They don't understand time outs so forget that completely - it does not work.

Correct the pup when growls and nips. This is important to ensure that the pup understands that this is not acceptable. Correction however does not mean hitting or putting in a crate.

Hopefully LuckyPenny will sign on and assist you as she has extensive experience with puppies. I cannot as I am only adult oriented and my method will not be the same for puppies.

More advice I am certain will come from other members more puppy savvy. In the meantime - good luck and I will continue to read this thread to get pointers myself.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 03:29 PM
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Oh!!! I need that kind of advice as well! Nanook is the same. He throws temper tantrums, runs in circles growling nd biting his tail and hind legs and sometimes on the end of the leash he will jump and spin in circles, snarling and biting. He's getting harder to keep away and has bitten me a few times . He also bites badly when we play with him (I think he was taken away from his mother/siblings way too young). We started training but had to stop because of the seizures and now have no idea what the proper way to correct this behavior is. He's just over 50 pounds now at 4 months, so we need to do something! If you find out Serena, let me know lol.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 03:34 PM
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Looks like I asked a good question! Hahah. I know Keely was definitely taken from her Mom and siblings too early, so we might have that in common, Rgeurts. Maybe why we're having this same problem!

Hope to figure something out soon. It doesn't happen too often, but I want to fix it as soon as possible!
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Old June 30th, 2010, 07:34 PM
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Ben Max - for not being puppy savvy you are right on with your response.

You should try to pick this pup up fairly frequently and in repetition. Mild complaining on the pups part can be ignored and she will learn it is a waste of her energy to complain. Nipping, growling and snarling will get a correction (don't go overboard though) and when she calms down then she gets released. She needs to learn that calmness wins - not tantrums.

Good that you are doing lots of massaging and hands-on work, but try not to bribe her every time. Treats are fine but don't rely on them as she can get to the point of only being good if there is a treat involved.

We aren't keen on 'time outs', they can calm a dog down in the moment but it is a slow way to teach, and she is not sitting there contemplating the behavior that got her into 'time out' like a child would. Better to simply give her an appropriate correction and go right back to what you were doing. She will start to see a pattern in your responses and LEARN what is permitted and what is not. You should always go back to the circumstances that created the behavior so that she is given repeated opportunties to make a better choice and when she does give her lots of soft, warm praise.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 07:57 PM
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What would you suggest as an appropriate correction? Our trainer has suggested spraying water or shaking a pop can fill of pennies. Both are starting to lose their effectiveness, I have found!
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