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Old June 19th, 2010, 02:46 PM
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Iranian cleric issues Fatwa against dogs

In an effort to discourage the inclusion of dogs as pets, an Iranian cleric issues a Fatwa against dogs, considered "unclean" in Islam.

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Old June 19th, 2010, 04:07 PM
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Rick,nice to hear from you again
I am sorry,but these people are unbelievable to me,not only because of the dogs,but for the way women are treated and a million other reasons.
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Old June 19th, 2010, 05:07 PM
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While yes it is horrible to think that dogs are not as pets, but look at places like India...where cows are sacared, yet North America seems nothing wrong with eating cows.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 09:20 AM
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The truth is,these "sacred"cows are suffering on the streets,in the cities
It really has nothing to do with some cleric in Iran deciding to order war(Fatwa) against dogs
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Old June 20th, 2010, 09:48 AM
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as a muslim (though it might not matter to some of you) i'd like to say that you shouldnt look at countries like iran, india, pakistan, afghanistan, and other countries that share similar circumstances as good role models for islam. i mean, its not only for dogs, theres many other things that are being blown out of proportion all for the sake of islam, which is a complete neglegance.

all animals are creations of god (Allah in islams case). so you cant discriminate against them, some people need them for livestock protection, and other things of that nature. they've prooved wonderful for drugs, bombs, etc.. etc...

yes a dog is very loving, loyal, and couragous.

yes they're saliva is considered unclean, but thats what soap and sand are for.

but for reasons other than the most obvious ones (like angels' dislike for them) theres reasons we dont know yet as to why we cant have dogs for recreational reasons.

if its a necessity then thats a different story.

really, the only restriction with dogs in islam is that you dont own one for a unecissary reason such as: i want it for a pet.

but that doesnt mean you are allowed to harm dogs, bother them, or even torture/kill aimlessly for that matter. thats basically a one way ticket to hell.

though i will most likely end up with like 2 or so GSD's.

anyhow, yeah... take it or leave it.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 10:58 AM
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really, the only restriction with dogs in islam is that you dont own one for a unecissary reason such as: i want it for a pet.
the "only" restriction ? It's one hell of a restriction to me !!
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yes they're saliva is considered unclean, but thats what soap and sand are for.
Edited to add this paragraph: Sew-sew-steve, even though the quote was from you, please do not think my statements below are in any way aimed at you or intended for you. It's just a general statement.

The human mouth (and saliva) is far more unclean than a dogs.

My husband and I can't have children, so we have pets... and my oldest boy has gotten me through some very tough times, emotionally. I can't imagine being without him.
I understand people have different religions/beliefs, and that's fine. I don't push mine on anyone or talk down/judge anyone I don't agree with, but one thing that does bother me is you hear people saying we need to be "tolerant" to Muslim (and all other) beliefs. I say "fine", but it goes both ways. When all you ever hear in the Muslim communities (both North American and abroad) is how "western ways" and "western lifestyle" are evil and immoral (yet alot of them have no problem benefiting from the freedoms here) it becomes harder and harder to remain tolerant.

This Fatwa against dogs is just unimaginable to me. Even though the Fatwa is not intended to harm or injure animals, there will always be the extremists who take it that step further. What's to happen to these poor dogs when that happens? Keep the Fatwa in the originating country and pray those animals will have someone caring who will look out for them because it won't be tolerated here.

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Old June 20th, 2010, 10:00 AM
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The truth is,these "sacred"cows are suffering on the streets,in the cities
It really has nothing to do with some cleric in Iran deciding to order war(Fatwa) against dogs
where did it say he was declaring war?

fatwa doesnt mean war. it means an opinon, or a ruling.

not war.

not that im blaming you, but thats how people missunderstand my religion
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Thank you for your explanation, Abe. It does matter and is obviously needed. It is unfortunate that you and other members of your faith or any other faith for that matter are put in a position (on this board or elsewhere) where you need to defend or explain your religion. Unfortunately, there is far too much ignorance and misinformation about Islam here in North America, although I believe and hope that this is slowly changing.
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I am sorry,but these people are unbelievable to me,not only because of the dogs,but for the way women are treated and a million other reasons.
I know what you mean
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