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Old February 16th, 2005, 07:36 PM
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ADOPTED PITBULL itching problem

Hi, In January I adopted a pitbull mix from the local animal shelter. At that time he was basically hairless with a diagnosis of dermotopic mange being treated with ivermectin orally and oral antibiotics. Two skin scrapings have been negative but we are still scratching to bleeding. We recently started oral benadryl 25mg daily with no relief, oatmeal baths with no relief, sunflower oil 2 tbsps daily with no relief. I beginning to look internally. could this be related to his kidneys. He is only 7 months old and has begun to grow hair again a shiny black coat. no excessive drinking or urinating a good appetite, just the itching till he bleeds in some cases. The baths help initially then right back to itching in 24 hours or less. Please help. He is going back to the vet this Friday to be neutered. He is thinking a food allergy, I don't know. any suggestions? Thanks so much. Colby
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Old February 16th, 2005, 07:56 PM
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What food are you feeding the pup? A cheaper brand of food may be aggrevating the problem. Is the dog stressed?
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Old February 16th, 2005, 08:43 PM
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Demodectic mange does seem to be quite pervasive among badly bred pit bulls, if you're sure this is what he has. The mange mite lives deep in the skin of animals and doesn't usually cause a problem unless the animal is in poor heath from malnourishment etc or the animal is very young.

This is basically a disease of puppyhood, and the problem usually resolves itself as the dog gets older and it's immune system becomes mature - this happens between 12 and 18 months normally.

A raw diet with added yogurt can be helpful.

When you take him to be neutered, ask the vet if the anesthetic will further supress his immune system, worsening the problem. It might be better to wait til he is over this. Many drugs and chemicals used also exacerbate the problem.

Go to Google and type in "Demodectic Mange natural remedies" without the quotation marks and you'll find lots of good info.

Just so you don't give up hope, here is Buddy, a dog who was dumped with severe demodectic mange. These are his "Before" and "after" pics.

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Old February 17th, 2005, 07:47 AM
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I am at a loss for words...that picture is so incredibly terrible...what a strong little fellow.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 10:44 AM
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Yogurt is great for infections but make sure it asidopholus (sp) it is the active ingredient in it. It is actually something Buddy gets everyday you should use plain or I use vanilla my vet said that it is okay because he is not eating a lot of it he loves it.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 10:51 AM
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Our dog also had mange when we adopted her...bald spots didn't start to develop until after we had her for about a week. She also itched, but not as bad as what you are saying. Our vet told us to give her one fish oil pill per day...it really seemed to help with the itching...if you poke a hole in it they eat them easier. Large bottles of the pills are fairly cheap. She was also on Ivarmectin. She also gets Nutro Ultra dry food, which seems to be very good.

Good luck...it may take a while, but he should get over it and have a great coat. I look at pictures of Gabby when she looked her worse from the mange and can't believe it is the same dog now!

Wow...that Buddy picture is amazing...and really sad! Poor guy.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 10:56 AM
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I wonder if Luba's Oregano oil would help this little guy??
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Old February 17th, 2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyRescue
Just so you don't give up hope, here is Buddy, a dog who was dumped with severe demodectic mange. These are his "Before" and "after" pics.
OMG Lucky...that's terrible! That poor little pooch :sad:
I'm glad he's all better now, but that looks awfully painfull, I sometimes get a little patch of psoriasis on my elbows and I complain about it...If these dogs could talk...
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Old February 17th, 2005, 07:21 PM
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A big THANKS to Boxer Rescue Ontario for giving Buddy the happy ending he so deserved.

Colby's mom - just be careful with the Clavamox. It's not usual, but it CAN cause nausea which won't help your dog's condition. It's often suggested that chemicals, drugs, dips etc NOT be used to treat demodectic mange, as the side effects may affect the immune system.

And thank YOU so much for adopting a dog who is less than perfect and giving him such a loving home that he has probably never known. He will pay you back many times over.
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Old March 9th, 2005, 04:17 PM
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Itchy dog

My pit bull (mix) is also suffering from severe itching. He was always somewhat itchy but it has gotten out of hand. I have given up on the vet and am hoping you have found the answer. I would appreciate any help. Thanks
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Old March 9th, 2005, 05:18 PM
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Just wanted to say, try switching to a food with alternative ingredients and see if the itching stops. This needs to be done for at least a month or more, after slowly switching. The most common allergies for dogs are beef and dairy followed by chicken and corn. Those ingredients are in most dog foods. My dog was switched to Eagle Pack fish and oatmeal based kibble, and he is much better now, barely scratches and his coat is soft and shiny.
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Old March 9th, 2005, 10:55 PM
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I agree with the switching food for itchiness but it has to be a food with ingredients the dog has never had before (no wheat, no corn, etc). If you have money to burn, there are doggy allergy blood tests you can ask for.

For the first poster, joker's comet, since the doggy came from a shelter, I would give him the meds the vet prescribed and a good dog food and wait and see. My Boo was abused before we got him- he didn't have any parasites but he had bites and cigarette burns and the first two months we had him he lost ALL his fur, and he had no allergies at the time. I think he just wanted to get rid of all the residue of the bad previous owners.. (my unscientific interpretation) Now he has the shiniest, softest black fur. People at our park call him the "Lapin" (rabbit) because he's so soft. It'll be ok see?
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Old March 10th, 2005, 10:56 AM
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Hi, my younger cat, Sabrina, had the exact same problem. At first I suspected Mange but then the vet did a skin scrapping and said otherwise. I took her to three different vets and each time they gave her antibiotics. Unfortunately, none of those work. Until the last vet I took her to gave her some steriod pills. At first I was worried about side effects, but she assured me that steriods do not hurt if taken in short period of time. After only 1 course, she's no longer itchy anymore. :queen:
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