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Old December 29th, 2004, 10:53 AM
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Thumbs down Friend feeding IAMS

I was over at my hubby's friends house the other day and I saw his wife pouring food into their cat bowls. As from the title you can reasonably assume it was IAMS - a great big bag of it :sad:

Instantly I blurted out "You feed your cats IAMS?!". Only to get an irritated response of "Yes. Why?". I went into all the cons of IAMS and how they mistreat their animals through animal testing for their products.

Well, I did not get the response I thought I would get. Instead I got "So what? I am sure all pet food creators do animal testing and IAMS is just the only one who has been caught because of how big of a corporation they are. The big companies always get caught if they are doing something like that.... Besides, it is the best possible cat food you can feed your cat. Everything else has high ash content. Ever since I started feeding them IAMS I have noticed they are healthier and create less waste".

I was really surprised by his response as he is a Vegetarian. I thought I could help show the light and stop another person from supporting animal cruelty, but all I got was irritation, defense and argument :sad:
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Old December 29th, 2004, 11:06 AM
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He felt defensive, therefore was irritated. But, by the time he goes through that big bag, maybe he'll think about it and choose something else for his next bag. At least you planted a seed.
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Old December 29th, 2004, 12:23 PM
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I really hope so....though I think it is very doubtful :sad:
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Old December 29th, 2004, 12:28 PM
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I fed Toby Iams. I had no idea till recently about the testing. Granted, Iams is a good food, but people just don't know. I know alot of people who buy Iams, and I tell them as well and get the same response, sometimes you can't convince people of anything. :sad:
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Old December 29th, 2004, 12:42 PM
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That is so true. I know most people just don't care (good food is good food regardless of how it is made). I just thought that he would definitely care due to him being a vegetarian and all. I am not a vegetarian and yet I care very much about the conditions of those animals, and participate and care about animals rights. I guess I just thought since he was able to take that stand after being a meat eater that he would be the type to take a stand against animal cruelty from another angle.

I am not an fighter either, I always back down when the discussion gets too heated...even if I am educated on the subject and know more than the other person. I guess that does not help either....

I wish I could have got into the food brands that are really good for your pets, that don't test - but I do not know them all and listing one does not do any good for my argument :sad:

Though, like glasslass said, I hopefully planted a seed. I am trying to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

I too learned of IAMs after joining this site (I love Pets.ca). Though, I did not feed it to my cats. I tried once, but my cats turned their noses to it and looked at me like I was crazy. I understood why after finding out about them here. My fur babies must have sensed that something was not right
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Old December 29th, 2004, 01:07 PM
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I haven't read all of this yet, so I'm only posting this for the sake of being fair. While companies do have an agenda (making money), just remember, so do a lot of activist groups. I'd take the info from both sides with a grain of salt, and make up your own minds.

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Old December 29th, 2004, 04:53 PM
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[QUOTE=TobsterMom Granted, Iams is a good food, [/QUOTE]

Not true at all.Have you read the ingredients?If I'm correct,the second ingredients in Iams is corn.A big no-no.The first 4-5 ingredients in any dog food should not be corn.

Here is a good article.
http://www.api4animals.org/79.htm

Scroll down and check out the Iams Ingredients.

http://www.iei.net/~ebreeden/kibble.html
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Old December 29th, 2004, 05:06 PM
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Don't be so down tyr. My in-laws feed their malamute Eukanuba and I've tried getting them to stop, but they won't I think because it's conveinient or something. I did get my mom to stop feeding her cat Iams, but only because I completely insisted and practically dragged my mom to the specialty pet store by our house. Now she eats Natural Balance.
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Old December 30th, 2004, 12:14 PM
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[QUOTE=mona_b]
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Originally Posted by TobsterMom Granted, Iams is a good food, [/QUOTE

Not true at all.Have you read the ingredients?If I'm correct,the second ingredients in Iams is corn.A big no-no.The first 4-5 ingredients in any dog food should not be corn.

Here is a good article.
http://www.api4animals.org/79.htm

Scroll down and check out the Iams Ingredients.

http://www.iei.net/~ebreeden/kibble.html

I agree it's not the BEST food in the world, but I just mean compared to many other grocery store brands. I have seen what cheap department store and grocery store brands do to an animals coat and excrements...not good. .

I have to somewhat disagree with something metioned in the first link posted.

"Procter & Gamble allegedly took the opposite tack with its Iams and Eukanuba lines, reducing the feeding amounts in order to claim that its foods were less expensive to feed. Independent studies commissioned by a competing manufacturer suggested that these reduced levels were inadequate to maintain health. Procter & Gamble has since sued and been countersued by that competing manufacturer, and a consumer complaint has also been filed seeking class-action status for harm caused to dogs by the revised feeding instructions"

I fed my dog Iams up until 4 months ago, using the suggested feeding amounts. He was perfect weight and health, so I don't quite get that

I feed him Medi-Cal preventitive formula. He loves it and is thriving on it.
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