Originally Posted by akaJenT
I was with you right up to the end. I think it does pass on the message, and putting them on their back and growling isn't roughing them up, so I don't quite understand the disconnect?
This works in the dog world, but not the human dog world. The message is not the same because the way the dog is taken down is not the same. Let's not forget that since our unspoken communication is not the same..the actual message of intent is not transmitted from human to dog. It is just dog gets flipped and held. The dog is thinking "what the heck???'.
Just look at the expression on the dogs face if you do this. Also, look at the eyes, the tail and the legs.
Most dogs will almost take on the fetal position. Fear. Not respect.